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  •  The Tea Party is about Dog Whistles (29+ / 0-)

    not about consistency, just like the entire Republican Party since it followed Strom Thurmond into what was later called the Southern Strategy (itself a Dog Whistle for campaigning on racism).

    Those are my principles, and if you don't like them, well, I have others.
    Groucho Marx

    Tea Party principles apply where they intend them to apply, and nowhere else. That's small government for them, not for you. That's "fiscal responsibility" when it comes to cutting social programs that benefit you, not pork for them. No, fiscal irresponsibility is at the heart of the Starve the Beast plan for cutting social programs for the poor, for women, for minorities, but keeping them for the deserving Angry White Guys.

    Among the issues are racism, misogyny, bigotry, Mammonism, More Guns More!!, and hatred of the Federal government telling them what they can and cannot do (oppressing others, in particular), or even what they must do (taxes, seat belts, health insurance). But the Federal government telling you what to do is the whole point.

    But there are, of course, factions. Notable among them are

    • Country club/Wall Street/1%/Chamber of Commerce Republicans, who hate taxes and regulations above all else, and hate science that supports regulation
    • National Republicans, who hate losing elections above all else, and want Marriage Equality and immigration to just go away and not bother them
    • the Religious Right, which hates abortion, contraception, and LGBT rights above all else, and hates science that disproves the Bible in any way
    • Neo-Confederates, who hate Yankees and Blacks above all else, and bitterly hate Darwin for explaining that they, too, are descended from Black Africans
    • Pretend Libertarians, who don't actually agree on what they hate beyond gun regulation, but they know it when they see it. Some of them dislike the War on Drugs and actual wars against people who haven't attacked us first.
    • The ever-shrinking pool of moderate Eisenhower and Rockefeller Republicans who refuse to believe the memo until it hits them personally.

    with, of course, massive overlap. Each faction regards the others at best as Useful Idiots whom you promise to support so that they will support you, but you don't really want to give them what they want, because then they won't have a reason to vote your way any more. At worst, other factions are Leftist RINOs or Rightist wackos, the actual enemy.

    When I observe factional infighting among Republicans, I remind myself of this.

    Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a grave error.

    Or as President Obama put it,

    Please proceed, Republicans.

    Back off, man. I'm a logician.—GOPBusters™

    by Mokurai on Sat Feb 15, 2014 at 06:56:38 AM PST

    •   the deserving >RICH< Angry White Guys. (5+ / 0-)

      Look at the anti-union actions leading up to the UAW vote at the VW plant in Chattanooga.

      Tea Partisans like Corker think that the workers--mostly White male Tennesseans and Georgians--who actually make the cars are in their pretzel-logical "makers vs. takers" ideology--are the undeserving while German investors sitting around their boardroom in Wolfsburg (It's been a while--they could have moved their main offices long ago and I still haven't gotten the news) are the ones who deserve to get the benefits from the plant.

      From the time the first tobacco planter bought a slave to do the actual work in cultivating the cash crop, the Southern economy was built around the notion that labor is to be exploited.

      Freedom's just another word for not enough to eat. --Paul Krugman's characterization of conservative attitudes.

      by Judge Moonbox on Sat Feb 15, 2014 at 07:39:12 AM PST

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      •  True, but it is the deserving >POOR< (10+ / 0-)

        Angry White Guys who deliver the vote. Alexandra Pelosi has filmed some of them in the South claiming that they deserve welfare and Medicaid and the rest, but Blacks don't.

        Back off, man. I'm a logician.—GOPBusters™

        by Mokurai on Sat Feb 15, 2014 at 07:45:23 AM PST

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        •  Poor Whites have voted against own interest... (12+ / 0-)

          In the wake of Bacon's Rebellion in 1676, the Virginia establishment hit upon the idea that race consciousness can eclipse class consciousness and get the poor Whites to vote against their own interest.

          Although overt racism has been dropped (the phrase that Reagan adviser Lee Atwater used was "We'll be getting abstract now."), the paradigm stands; few Southern Whites are willing to see that the system which keeps Blacks down keeps them down as well.

          Freedom's just another word for not enough to eat. --Paul Krugman's characterization of conservative attitudes.

          by Judge Moonbox on Sat Feb 15, 2014 at 08:26:08 AM PST

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          •  It started before that (3+ / 0-)
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            in Barbados, among other places, where the planters determined to drive a wedge between the Irish indentured servants (slaves, really) and the African slaves.

            •  Barbados was cradle of the Southern Aristocracy (3+ / 0-)
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              "If Wall Street paid a tax on every “game” they run, we would get enough revenue to run the government on." ~ Will Rogers

              by Lefty Coaster on Sat Feb 15, 2014 at 12:43:38 PM PST

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              •  Really? Know of any good reads on the topic? (0+ / 0-)

                "And now we know that government by organized money is just as dangerous as government by organized mob." -- FDR

                by Mogolori on Sat Feb 15, 2014 at 01:58:17 PM PST

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                •  There is a library on the subject (1+ / 0-)
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                  covering every British, Spanish, French, and Dutch colony in the New World. Slavery in the mines of Peru is the first topic in Jorge Luis Borges's Universal History of Iniquity. I can recommend anything by Paul Farmer on Haiti, particularly the historical overview The Uses of Haiti. I wrote a Diary several years ago on the Haiti problem, Translating Code: The Punishment of Haiti.

                  On Barbados, there is Sweet Negotiations: Sugar, Slavery, and Plantation Agriculture in Early Barbados, by Russell R. Menard, which is unfortunately out of print and expensive on the used book market, but should be in any good university library.

                  Intending at first simply to do further research on the mid-seventeenth-century "sugar revolution" in Barbados, Russell Menard traveled to the island. But once there, he quickly found many discrepancies between the historical understanding of the way in which this "revolution" fueled the institution of slavery and the actual, quotidian, records documenting the prominence of slavery on the island even before sugar spurred its economic growth. In Sweet Negotiations: Sugar, Slavery, and Plantation Agriculture in Early Barbados, Menard reveals that black slavery's emergence in Barbados actually preceded the rise of sugar; in doing so he both reverses the long-held understanding of slavery as a consequence of the island's economic boom and repositions the impact that this surge of slavery had on America's slave trade.
                  Then there is To Hell or Barbados: The Ethnic Cleansing of Ireland, by Sean O'Callaghan.
                  The previously untold story of over 50,000 Irish men, women and children who were transported to Barbados and Virginia. Sean O'Callaghan for the first time documents the history of these people: their transportation, the conditions in which they lived on plantations as slaves or servants, and their rebellions in Barbados. An illuminating insight into a neglected episode in Irish history, but its significance is much broader than that. Its main achievement is to situate the story of colonialism in Ireland in the much larger context of worldwide European imperialism. O'Callaghan's description of seventeenth century Barbados is a powerful portrait of a society as brutal, corrupt and unjust as anything the twentieth century has to offer. Yet it is precisely societies like colonial Barbados and Virginia which lie at the root of our modern world. That is why To Hell or Barbados is such a valuable book.""--Irish World
                  Yes. Slave rebellions by White men. Well, we Irish-Americans are White now, but our ancestors were not White then. Some of us support all those held in slavery and national oppression. Not all that many of us willingly joined the oppressors. The Protestant Scots-Irish Orangemen up in Northern Ireland are a different kettle of oatmeal.

                  Back off, man. I'm a logician.—GOPBusters™

                  by Mokurai on Sat Feb 15, 2014 at 03:00:39 PM PST

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                •  About 1676 (1+ / 0-)
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                  There was a book, 1676, The End of American Independence, that covered Bacon's Rebellion and Prince Phillip's War (the latter being a war against the Indians of New England, and the consequences.) I can't remember the author's name, and my ISP connection is really slow tonight.

                  Freedom's just another word for not enough to eat. --Paul Krugman's characterization of conservative attitudes.

                  by Judge Moonbox on Sat Feb 15, 2014 at 08:00:16 PM PST

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          •  A fun example of that (2+ / 0-)
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            Poor Whites have voted against own interest...
            that I always like to point out is the poor whites that fought on the southern side of the civil war, essentially fighting to keep the existence of unpaid labor so they could remain underpaid and starving.

            They must have held out for the dream of owning their own slaves someday, although I'm not sure where they thought they would get the money. It's like their elusive lottery-winning dream where the odds are a billion to one.

            "It's not enough to acknowledge privilege. You have to resist." -soothsayer

            by GenXangster on Sat Feb 15, 2014 at 12:44:32 PM PST

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    •  Great break-down of factions (0+ / 0-)

      It's unfortunate that the first one listed also controls most of the leadership of the Democratic Party.

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