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  •  Your persistent concern is noted (7+ / 0-)

    You've made repeated attempts to divert attention away from the subject of the diary, which has a very narrow focus.

    This diary is not about how self defense laws are implemented in other states. If you feel the laws in California are a problem you could write a diary about that.

    "The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.” — William Arthur Ward

    by LilithGardener on Mon Feb 17, 2014 at 09:58:07 AM PST

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    •  With all due respect, (0+ / 0-)

      he subject of the diary invites comparison with how self-defense laws are implemented in other states.  The UI/MAIG infographic you present below depends on such comparison.   I understand that there is an organizing argument behind focusing on Florida SYG in particular, but that position's weakness on the merits vis a vis self-defense law elsewhere at the bone.  Shamash has a legitimate point; if we're offended the law Florida, why aren't we offended by the law in California?  Where he and I disagree is the response to that question.  He's in favor of a very liberal presumption in favor of self-defense.  I think self-defense by and large is rarely justified on public safety grounds.  I don't believe there's a reasonable middle here.  We must address severe deficiencies in self-defense law in 49 states, not simply the icing on the cake in 22.

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