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  •  Mostly they love the military for "other people" (7+ / 0-)

    while their families can avoid serving.

    Back when there was a draft you either had to come up with something on your own or have a family with lots of clout (ie, Bush's) to get out the war.

    Today, we've outsourced war to the poor, mostly.

    Yet we disguise this with language.  Look at the Civil War.  Back then we had a Dept. of War, now it's the Dept. of Defense.  Same activity, different name.

    And back then there was an official price the well-off could pay to not be drafted.  Today, we just have an economy where poorer kids mostly don't have any job prospects which compete with the military which offers a moderate chance of being maimed, a low chance of being killed, and all for getting your basic needs for food, shelter and clothing covered at a low enough level that your family will likely qualify for food stamps despite your full-time military job.

    •  Rs love the military only for the photo-ops. (6+ / 0-)

      (I'm speaking of R pols, not Joe Blue Collar Why-the-Hell-Do-You-Vote-That-Way?)

      When they cut benefits for our returning vets, their actions speak louder than their words.

      "Non-violence is a powerful and just weapon which cuts without wounding and ennobles the man who wields it. It is a sword that heals." - Martin Luther King, Jr.

      by Gentle Giant on Wed Feb 19, 2014 at 07:18:22 AM PST

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    •  I always make the distinction... (7+ / 0-)

      ..between loving the military and loving militarism. Republicans love militarism but hate most of the people who serve in the military. People who enlist to serve our country tend to be poor, minority, young, and otherwise non-powerful, so Republicans like to crap all over them at every opportunity while simultaneously making a big show of how much the love "the military" (always defined in abstract, vague terms).

      Basically: Republicans hate our troops but love the idea of authority, uniforms, hierarchy, and huge profits for defense contractor corporations. All of these things can be explained by the fact that Republicans are fascists at heart.

      •  The United States is a fascist nation with (1+ / 0-)
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        government of by and for too big to fail corporations.  There are only two ways to have a chance to get anything done--either be rich enough to outbid the too big to fail corporations or be clever enough to figure out how what you want done can be made even more profitable to too big to fail corporations than business as usual and then persuade the relevant corporations to demand it of Congress.

    •  We had a Department of War until after WWII (0+ / 0-)

      which was the last legally DECLARED war in our history.

      During the Cold War era, the theory was that we would keep the "peace" by deterring the Soviets, so it would not be seemly to call it a Department of War when they never expected to fight another "war" (at least not for more than the 90 minutes it would take to destroy the planet, and of course, hopefully not that one).

      Of course, we managed to avoid fighting a "real war" by calling one of them a "police action" undertaken by the United Nations (when the Soviet delegate to the Security Council was taking a bathroom break; just kidding, but he wasn't there for the vote), although anyone who fought in it would say that the Korean War was a "real war."

      After that stalemate (and as we have recently been reminded, that war NEVER ENDED; it is just in a truce right now), our Presidents of both parties stopped asking Congress to "declare war," just to "authorize the use of military force."  After the use of military force has already started, in most cases.  So, with all the military adventures the U.S. has had, big ones like Vietnam and Afghanistan and little ones like Grenada and Panama, none of them has been a "war," and so we no longer have a Department of War, only a Department of Defense.  And we've been "defending" our country all over the world, except in our own territory.

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