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  •  The regs are already in place for the next 4 years (0+ / 0-)

    this announcement was about the standard starting in 2018, which will be published in 2016.  The standard thru 2017, may be found HERE:

    http://www.dieselnet.com/...

    Mandated improvements by 2017 over a 2010 baseline are only 7-20% for tractors.

    No one who knows anything about this expects a 10mpg average for fully loaded semis 5 years from now.  The President's remarks are aspirational chum for the masses, not a technical document.

    However, if you think everything economic that can be done is being done without mandates, you are much mistaken.  

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    by benamery21 on Thu Feb 20, 2014 at 03:28:28 AM PST

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    •  Maybe you didnt read what i posted? (0+ / 0-)

      Im really sick of Obama.. he's destroying the damn party with his fake stunts and that is what this is. And he could give a damn that it does massive damage to an entire industry and millions of workers. This is just like gun control, abortion, etc etc. He is trying to leave office without massive negatives by putting out dogwhistles to the one issue voters. The problem is this one can do real damage.

      Again.. if you can get a 2mpg increase every company in the trucking industry will replace its entire fleet that year. Every single one. The company that could do what would literally own the market. The reason they dont? Physics.

      A man is born as many men but dies as a single one.--Martin Heidegger

      by cdreid on Sat Feb 22, 2014 at 12:12:33 PM PST

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      •  No disrespect (0+ / 0-)

        for your experience.  My brother is an owner-operator, and I know several folks who operate small private fleets.

        I'm an engineer, several of my siblings and in-laws are engineers, my brother-in-law's degree is in physics. All of us have done real, practical work in addition to taking degrees.

        The idea you are expounding that significant progress in fuel efficiency would already have been made if it were physically possible is really founded on an idea from one of the softer sciences--economics.  It's basically the efficient market hypothesis, and it's a useful concept, but far from a physical law.  There are certainly physical limits to fuel efficiency, as well as economic limits on what level of efficiency can be practically attained.  However the idea that these limits have already been reached is simply not correct.

        Once you accept that fact, the question becomes, WHY haven't the advantages of fuel economy that you note been a strong enough market force to result in increased fuel efficiency?  What other market forces are at work?

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        by benamery21 on Sat Feb 22, 2014 at 03:07:57 PM PST

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