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View Diary: VW expansion in the south in danger over labor issues, says works council leader (52 comments)

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  •  Can I just ask a Question? (6+ / 0-)

    IF Volkswagen is indeed pro union-- then WHY did they locate in the south in the first place? how many millions in tax incentives/breaks were they given to build their factory in TN?

    "We are beyond law, which is not unusual for an empire; unfortunately, we are also beyond common sense." Gore Vidal

    by Superpole on Wed Feb 19, 2014 at 04:12:25 PM PST

    •  A most excellent question. (2+ / 0-)
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      Superpole, dewtx

      Over to you, VW, and your works council, too.

      •  Seems Obvious Doesn't It? (2+ / 0-)
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        AlexDrew, Railfan

        car manufacturers invest hundreds of millions building factories in the south in order to avoid established unions/union workers in northern states and avoid paying unions wages and benefits.

        "We are beyond law, which is not unusual for an empire; unfortunately, we are also beyond common sense." Gore Vidal

        by Superpole on Wed Feb 19, 2014 at 04:26:54 PM PST

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        •  Or maybe (1+ / 0-)
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          Railfan

          the local politicians offered them a sweeter deal for the land, and VW thought the union thing wouldn't be such a big deal.

          Or maybe the location was selected due to shipping criteria as a fairly central one in the US.

          I don't assume to know the answers, but I assume there can be a variety of issues involved apart from what might seem obvious at first glance.

          Darling, you didn't use canned salmon, did you?

          by JrCrone on Wed Feb 19, 2014 at 07:38:27 PM PST

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    •  Maybe (3+ / 0-)
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      JeffW, Railfan, Superpole

      they gave the south more credit than it deserved.

      Maybe they thought folks couldn't really be THAT stupid.

    •  It is a good question (0+ / 0-)

      But every foreign manufacturer is non-union and mostly in the South or non-union areas. Including German BMW. Part of it is likely lower costs and giant incentives. But I have to think that not wanting to be in pro-union areas was a factor in most cases.

      •  A lot of them set up shop in the 1990s, (0+ / 0-)

        And I think it was primarily the generous tax breaks southern states were offering.  Big 3, and Michigan in general, were doing fairly well at the time.

      •  Let's Look at How Much VW Pays (0+ / 0-)

        their workers in Germany...I'm guessing it's comparable or higher than union workers in Detroit.

        "We are beyond law, which is not unusual for an empire; unfortunately, we are also beyond common sense." Gore Vidal

        by Superpole on Thu Feb 20, 2014 at 03:26:08 AM PST

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