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  •  It's as complicated as all get out (29+ / 0-)

    but progress is being made.

    And eventually red states will comply or die. Businesses are going to start moving to places where they get help providing benefits to workers.

    Purity is for primaries; in the general, our worst are better than their best.

    by blue aardvark on Wed Feb 19, 2014 at 01:17:26 PM PST

    •  So VW will move to CA fro the benefit of its (0+ / 0-)

      EEs? I know that's not exactly what you said, but businesses aren't exactly famout for caring about their employees.

      That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

      by enhydra lutris on Wed Feb 19, 2014 at 04:28:19 PM PST

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      •  VW's location in TN (1+ / 0-)
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        may have more to do with proximity to the East Coast market and home base Germany... tho' what do I know?

        "There's nothing serious about a plan that claims to reduce the deficit by spending a trillion dollars on tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires." - President Obama

        by fhcec on Wed Feb 19, 2014 at 09:10:19 PM PST

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      •  Maybe (0+ / 0-)

        Because businesses do care about their employees - to be precise, they care that they can hire the people they need and retain them, because turnover is expensive.

        It depends on where you work, of course, but an aerospace firm figures (IIRC) that it costs them $50k to replace an engineer, when you figure all the lost productivity as the new person has to be brought up to speed, learn processes, and so on.

        So if VW discovers that they are losing the people they wanted to retain to a company located in, e.g., Pennsylvania, because the health care benefits in PA are so much better than in TN - yeah. They just might move. PA would probably have to make them a good tax breaks offer and so on, but turnover is a big pain in the ass for management.

        Purity is for primaries; in the general, our worst are better than their best.

        by blue aardvark on Thu Feb 20, 2014 at 06:00:51 AM PST

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        •  Since you mentioned aerospace, I'll just toss (1+ / 0-)
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          out Boeing as an example of a company moving to a place where employees are likely not as well off as before. From Seattle to, Chicago, MO. & NC.

          I pretty much agree with all of this:

          So if VW discovers that they are losing the people they wanted to retain to a company located in, e.g., Pennsylvania, because the health care benefits in PA are so much better than in TN - yeah. They just might move. PA would probably have to make them a good tax breaks offer and so on, but turnover is a big pain in the ass for management.
          It is situational, conditional and all that.

          That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

          by enhydra lutris on Thu Feb 20, 2014 at 08:20:50 AM PST

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