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  •  Did you not see the photo (1+ / 0-)
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    a2nite

    posted by annieli up there showing a Wii aftermarket game controller that looks so much like a semiautomatic pistol? So you could immediately tell the difference between the two if you were a cop serving a warrant on someone who has already skipped?

    I'm certainly no fan of cops by any stretch. However, in light of the similarity between the two, I can't fault the police officer for thinking a gun was being pointed at her.

    Can you? Seriously?

    •  It doesn't appear to be a controller; it's an (7+ / 0-)

      auxiliary game piece.

      We don't know what the kid was holding, but if it was in fact a "controller" then it doesn't look a lot like a gun.

      See the discussion elsewhere in the comments.

    •  Thinking it? No. Firing first? Yes (9+ / 0-)

      As I said in another post, serving a warrant on someone who violated parole, they should expect a gun.

      But #1, the article says the kid was getting ready to watch a movie on the WII, and not play a shooting game.  I don't think he was holding the gun look alike.

      #2, the person with the "gun" wasn't the adult suspect they were looking for, but a kid.

      #3, I highly doubt the kid was pointing the WII controller at her like a gun.

      #4, she should have pulled her gun and ordered the kid to drop it, and NOT opened fire.

      I'm not faulting her for thinking it was a gun.  I'm faulting her for committing murder by opening fire without even first trying to disarm the suspect.

    •  You can keep repeating something, but that doesn't (4+ / 0-)
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      jpmassar, Shotput8, ColoTim, nota bene

      make it any truer.

    •  Are you so confused by the picture of the (4+ / 0-)
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      aftermarket controller that you think that is what the kid was holding?

      You have implied 3 times that this is what the kid was holding.   I can give you 2 mistakes but now you are just trying to confuse the issue.

      •  Some people are like that. (2+ / 0-)
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        jpmassar, Shotput8

        Some people simply cannot keep two things separate.

        Some people simply cannot understand the logic behind "If it was a gun look-alike controller then the neighbors would not have been able to tell the difference either. BUT THEY DID TELL THE DIFFERENCE EVEN FROM OUTSIDE THE SCENE, so there is no way that it was what is pictured above".

        Some people WILL be so confused by the picture that they cannot help but think that such a thing is actually logged evidence.

        •  Well I'm flattered (0+ / 0-)

          that you think I could have convinced anyone in this echo chamber that the thing the kid was holding was a gun look-alike. Truly.

          But that is not my intention. I am merely saying that because such a thing exists, there is the POSSIBILITY---not a SURETY---that it could have been confused when the kid opened the door of a home where a dude lives who has skipped probation. As for the neighbors of a dude in a trailer park that has little regard for the law apparently, how is it that you have become such an expert on their character and dismiss what the cops say?

          But don't let my assertion stop you from projecting. My goodness, no.

          •  If this was the case, (2+ / 0-)
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            chrisculpepper, dconrad

            The police would be shouting it from the rooftops to get the media off of them.

            They are not.

            Also,

            "But the family's attorney, Cole Law, said the boy was holding a Nintendo Wii video game controller, and was about to watch a movie."

            That's a quote from the article.

            Given that he was reportedly about to watch a movie, it is EXTREMELY unlikely he had one of these aftermarket items on the controller. Having one would make it extremely annoying trying to control a movie.

            The problems that exist in the world today cannot be solved by the level of thinking that created them. - Albert Einstein.

            by Cvstos on Fri Feb 21, 2014 at 08:08:48 AM PST

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    •  Here's the problem (0+ / 0-)

      The vast majority of these aftermarket pieces (there are MANY different models) have clear "toy gun" markings, and, to be frank, the market penetration for all but the official Nintendo one is rather low. (And the official Nintendo one doesn't even look like a gun.) In fact, generally speaking, the market penetration for console accessories for everything but things you really do NEED to have to play games on the console in general (see: extra controllers, memory cards in PS1/PS2 era, headsets) tend to be less than 10%. The penetration for this particular one you pointed out is probably something like a couple thousand units, tops, compared with millions upon millions of console sold.

      Also, an awful lot of people that do buy these gun accessories wind up not using them after a couple of tries because the game is easier to control without them. (In fact most of them are easier to control with a dual-analog-stick controller, but I digress.)

      Also, if this kid had one of those, I'd be willing to bet the cops would be saying that all over the place in this case. Wouldn't you?

      "The victim unfortunately answered the door with an aftermarket video game accessory that gave the controller the appearance of a semi-automatic pistol."

      If a line like that appeared anywhere in any of the police statements to the press, I'd be willing to buy your argument.

      No one's said anything of the sort.

      And the kid didn't even have the opportunity to do the right thing. He was in the ROTC. If the officer had OPENED HER MOUTH and said "POLICE!" when the kid ASKED HER WHO WAS THERE, he may well have put the thing down before answering!

      What, do we have to answer our front doors with our hands on our head now?

      No, sorry, nothing about this adds up. When you serve a warrant, YOU IDENTIFY AS POLICE!

      The problems that exist in the world today cannot be solved by the level of thinking that created them. - Albert Einstein.

      by Cvstos on Fri Feb 21, 2014 at 08:05:12 AM PST

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