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  •  Is the War on Drugs a success to you? (0+ / 0-)

    There are reasons to oppose a black market that don't involve fetishizing the product being banned. If you think people are dying from guns now, wait until they're the lucrative profit of the gangs and mobs.

    I want all drugs to be legal, because the overall harm is less, not because I want a gun.  I don't agree we'd be safer if only criminals and cops have guns.

    •  I have the facts on my side, though. (0+ / 0-)

      Look up the statistics on gun violence.

      It's a fact, not my opinion, that people would be safer if only criminals and cops had guns.

      People like you are the reason a classroom of children were killed in Newtown by perfectly legal firearms.

      People like you are responsible for gun deaths from domestic violence.

      Obama: Pro-Pentagon, pro-Wall Street, pro-drilling, pro-fracking, pro-KXL, pro-surveillance. And the only person he prosecuted for the U.S. torture program is the man who revealed it. Clinton: More of the same.

      by expatjourno on Fri Feb 21, 2014 at 10:16:37 AM PST

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      •  Nope, it's the police militarizers (0+ / 0-)

        No one in America owned an AR-15 or a 30 round clip until we started arming cops like military.  And then the gun manufacturers wanted to sell their new product to everyone.  If we'd kept the cops on 6 round revolvers, everything would have been fine.

        Go blame the "keep us safe" pant pissers hiding under the bed, crying for the cops to protect them from those scary black men.

        •  Nope, it's people like you who oppose gun control. (0+ / 0-)

          The blood of every woman who has been shot to death by an ex-boyfriend or ex-husband with a handgun is on your hands.

          And again, my fact-free friend, more people are killed accidentally or on purpose by law-abiding citizens than by criminals.

          Which is why you have no answer to the argument that people would be safer if only outlaws and police had guns.

          Obama: Pro-Pentagon, pro-Wall Street, pro-drilling, pro-fracking, pro-KXL, pro-surveillance. And the only person he prosecuted for the U.S. torture program is the man who revealed it. Clinton: More of the same.

          by expatjourno on Fri Feb 21, 2014 at 11:36:36 AM PST

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          •  Only Adam Lanza is responsible for Newton (1+ / 0-)
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            I'm not responsible for every drunk driving death because I refuse to go back to prohibition, and mafias run amok.

            The only people responsible for murders, the only people with blood on their hands, are the murderers themselves.

            Or maybe I should say you have the blood of my great aunt, who was hacked to death with a machete, on your hands, because you haven't personally worked to ban knives.  You're just another blind gun banner, who ignores every murder not committed with a gun.

            But hey, answer me this, if we're safer with fewer guns, wouldn't we be the safest if only the outlaws had guns?  That way cops wouldn't be able to shoot any civilians either.  And there wouldn't be any gun makers in the US, because the law enforcement market would be gone.  

            As I said before, I will agree to every civilian gun restriction you also place on the police.  Lets see how much you really hate guns.

            •  Objectively, you favor arming the Adam Lanzas.... (1+ / 0-)
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              ..with high-powered assault rifles and whatever else they want.

              And again, the statistics are on my side. Many more people are killed by laws-abiding gun owners like the Lanza family than are killed by criminals or cops.

              It is a fact that Americans would be safer if only criminals and cops had guns.

              But hey, answer me this, if we're safer with fewer guns, wouldn't we be the safest if only the outlaws had guns?
              Maybe. But the number of people shot to death by trigger-happy cops is vanishingly small in comparison to the number of people shot to death by friends and relatives.

              You really live in a fact-free zone.

              Obama: Pro-Pentagon, pro-Wall Street, pro-drilling, pro-fracking, pro-KXL, pro-surveillance. And the only person he prosecuted for the U.S. torture program is the man who revealed it. Clinton: More of the same.

              by expatjourno on Fri Feb 21, 2014 at 10:43:03 PM PST

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