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  •  If you look at the data I posted (0+ / 0-)

    That's clearly not the case in Florida.

    As has been discussed before, there is a disparate outcome when the victim is not white... but there does not seem to be a disparate outcome based on the killer's race or gender.

    I'd like to see the data that backs your claim and why Florida specifically is different then the rest of the Nation if that's the case.

    We were not ahead of our time, we led the way to our time.

    by i understand on Mon Feb 24, 2014 at 07:33:50 AM PST

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    •  Here's where my number comes from - (15+ / 0-)

      And ok, I didn't word the actual 1% part correctly

      But a study by John Roman of the Urban Institute suggests that stand-your-ground laws could be amplifying the trend.

      In states with stand-your-ground laws, the shooting of a black person by a white person is found justifiable 17 percent of the time, while the shooting of a white person by a black person is deemed justifiable just over 1 percent of the time, according to the study. In states without stand-your-ground laws, white-on-black shootings are found justified just over 9 percent of the time.

      source of blockquote

      So what the 1% is is that black on white shootings are not 'deemed justifiable'.  Note that this includes ALL such shooting trials, not merely those in which SYG is explicitly invoked by the defense.  But given that FLorida reads SYG into the jury instructions, even though it might not be brought up by the defense, I'd argue it still 'counts'.

      •  That doesn't conflict with what I'm saying (0+ / 0-)

        The quote you put above talks about cases in which the races of the killer and victim are different. That is not all of the SYG cases. I do suggest you look at the link I posted above.

        As I said, gun violence and the "stand your ground" mentality is a huge issue, it is not just about race or gender.

        But given that FLorida reads SYG into the jury instructions, even though it might not be brought up by the defense, I'd argue it still 'counts'.
        I agree with this completely and feel it has been very under reported.

        We were not ahead of our time, we led the way to our time.

        by i understand on Mon Feb 24, 2014 at 07:54:19 AM PST

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