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  •  In the diary above he does (7+ / 0-)

    The Fraenkel quote:

    The outward forms of democratic participation—voting, competing political parties, judicial oversight and legislation—are hollow, political stagecraft.

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    by cfk on Fri Feb 21, 2014 at 12:08:06 AM PST

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    •  That doesn't say "don't vote." (9+ / 0-)

      At most, it's a cynical view of what those activities have become. If it resonates with someone to the degree that it would cause them to sit out an election, they were 98% of the way there already.




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      by DeadHead on Fri Feb 21, 2014 at 03:26:32 AM PST

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      •  I would generally agree with you on the cynicism. (3+ / 0-)
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        I can see cfk's problem with it, though, because Ray seems to be citing it as a given - as a best description of the current situation - and I don't get the feeling he's being particularly cynical.

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        by serendipityisabitch on Fri Feb 21, 2014 at 05:16:14 AM PST

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        •  It doesn't matter, it does not say do not vote, (3+ / 0-)

          that is some sort of conceptual hallucination on cfk's part. It , at most, implies that voting won't be fully efficacious in achieving our goals and keeping government on the straight and narrow, but it does not say "do not vote."  It would be nice if those working on their masters degree in creative reading would let everybody else read for themselves instead of trying to constantly censor shit based on their fears of all of the nightmare non-voters hiding under their beds.

          That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

          by enhydra lutris on Fri Feb 21, 2014 at 09:53:55 AM PST

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    •  Please stop (5+ / 0-)

      beating this to death-it's important to vote,it's important to do other things.The diary (I thought) was to provoke a discussion about the other things.Arguing about voting derails that.

      'The tyranny of the ignoramuses is absolute and inescapable' A.Einstein

    •  That does nto say "do not vote", and if you (1+ / 0-)
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      honestly think it does, I can only pity you.

      That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

      by enhydra lutris on Fri Feb 21, 2014 at 09:48:31 AM PST

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