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  •  Interesting tale, anecdotal, of course, but what (2+ / 0-)
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    conclusion should we draw from the fact that the guy not only misunderstood what was being said by the left, but was also completely ignorant of who destabilized their government and installed the tyrant Lon Nol, thereby driving vast numbers of citizens to go join the KR.

    That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

    by enhydra lutris on Fri Feb 21, 2014 at 10:01:18 AM PST

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    •  Secret carpet bombing of Cambodia along VN border (4+ / 0-)

      … set a vicious cycle of destabilization in motion. I thought this would have been common knowledge by now.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/...

      Of course, when it comes to foreign policy, somehow no matter who we vote for, we seem to end up with what I'll call "Henry Kissinger Democrats."

      The Dutch kids' chorus Kinderen voor Kinderen wishes all the world's children freedom from hunger, ignorance, and war. ♥ ♥ ♥ Forget Neo — The One is Minori Urakawa

      by lotlizard on Fri Feb 21, 2014 at 12:27:41 PM PST

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    •  The conclusion that might be drawn from it is that (0+ / 0-)

      progressives shouldn't rush to the defense of autocratic regimes merely because they see them as some kind of bizarre form of bulwark against "U.S. Imperialism".

      Support for and excuses for dictatorships and autocratic regimes will turn lots of people off.  In a sense, supporting autocratic leftist regimes, merely because they are (nominally) left and rant about how bad the U.S. is, mirrors the propensity that the right had during the Cold War for supporting dictatorships as long as they were "on our side".

      "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - Mohammed Nabbous, R.I.P.

      by Lawrence on Sat Feb 22, 2014 at 04:19:07 AM PST

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      •  My conclusion is that the alleged witness is (0+ / 0-)

        not remotely credible. I suspect he was a winger, possibly part of the Lon Nol govt., who came over and naturally gravitated to the RW parts and started dissing lefties.  Why?

        I was there, major lefty, during that whole schtick. I heard nobody support or celebrate Pol Pot once the atrocities were exposed by credible sources. That sounds akin to the "spitting on returning soldiers" fabrication. I did hear people cheer when Lon Nol, the US backed fascist strongman went down, but that is a different matter.  I also heard a ton of "Tsk, tsk, told ya so, another US/CIA intervention gone wrong and making things worse than ever before, as usual and as expected>" type commentary.

        Of course, your Cambodian friend knew nothing of the US involvement and was put off by those claiming it existed, having slept through the whole period, except for hearing all kinds of people supporting Pol Pot.  Riiiiight.

        That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

        by enhydra lutris on Sat Feb 22, 2014 at 10:26:08 AM PST

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