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  •  Then you should elaborate Ray (5+ / 0-)

    What is it in that leaked tape that supports your claim that the US was plotting a coup in the Ukraine.

    There was an excellent and well discussed diary here that has the full transcript of the tape. Here's a hint - more skepticism than not about the dubious claim you're making:

    http://www.dailykos.com/...

    KOS: "Mocking partisans focusing on elections? Even less reason to be on Daily Kos."

    by fcvaguy on Fri Feb 21, 2014 at 01:28:50 PM PST

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    •  Nowhere in this diary did I use the word "coup" (0+ / 0-)

      as my own.  I posted a Democracy Now! link to an article that uses the word int the title.

      I don't think you have contributed one useful thing to this diary other than apologia based on dubious claims.

      •  Yes, Ray, you did not use the word "coup" (2+ / 0-)
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        You used the words "government destabilization". Your link, which you've referenced a few times, uses the word "coup". I think its a distinction without a difference.

        I don't think you have contributed one useful thing to this diary other than apologia based on dubious claims.
        Wow. Thats really below the belt Ray. I've been completely on topic with respect to the Ukraine and current events there. I've discussed the topic civilly and exchanged comments with AoT a number of times. And I haven't contributed one useful thing?

        Beyond your link to the Democracy Now article, which fails to substantiate your claim that the US is destabilizing the Ukraine, and a very thoughtful diary which I linked to which a number of people participated in a very positive way which clearly demonstrated that the Democracy Now claim was a real stretch, you've provided nothing to further your argument that the US is in the business of destabilizing Ukraine. Its your claim thats dubious. I believe a number of people have thoughtfully pointed that out in this diary as well as the linked diary.

        I contributed nothing Ray? That is a truly false and Dickish accusation. If you don't like people offering respectful critiques on what you write about, then you should add that warning in blockquotes in your diary along with your other admonitions.

        KOS: "Mocking partisans focusing on elections? Even less reason to be on Daily Kos."

        by fcvaguy on Fri Feb 21, 2014 at 07:11:01 PM PST

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        •  Spare me the faux outrage dude. If you have (0+ / 0-)

          something useful you can use to challenge the claims of the experts interviewed by Democracy Now!, go ahead and present it.

          You have nothing other than attacking the messenger, in this case calling into question Democracy Now's reporting without providing any shred of a cogent substantiated counter-argument.

          Moving on now... Already wasted too much time with you.

          •  attacking the messenger? (1+ / 0-)
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            Ray, you're the only one on the attack. I criticized the premise of your diary, and presented arguments supporting that as well as a very well written diary by another Kossack which discussed the same issue.

            Yes, I'm moving on. As I said in another comment where you went on the attack, you're here to preach, and its our job to shut up and listen.

            KOS: "Mocking partisans focusing on elections? Even less reason to be on Daily Kos."

            by fcvaguy on Fri Feb 21, 2014 at 07:33:54 PM PST

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