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  •  Wish I could rec your comment a thousand (28+ / 0-)

    thousand times, NonnyO

    Thank you

    There is something in us that refuses to be regarded as less than human. We are created for freedom - Archbishop Desmond Tutu

    by Onomastic on Mon Feb 24, 2014 at 03:00:27 PM PST

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    •  Thank you, Onomastic. (15+ / 0-)

      I used to work in a different branch of law enforcement when I was young so I know how this works in a different state.  It's kind of difficult to give specifics about what needs to happen to get the child in Irish Patti's life to a safe place (away from her mother and that abusive fellow) because I don't know the police or prosecutors involved.

      In a broad general sense, it mostly works the same in most states, and IP and her husband need to get police involved, doctors (if necessary), child psychologists (if necessary), and their reports can then go to a prosecutor for evaluation on legal points to see if the abuser can be charged with criminal violations, whether it can be felony counts or "only" misdemeanors.  Jurisdiction might be a problem, but there should be a way to work around it.

      Then, after that little girl is at a safe haven away from a drug addict mother and that horrible abuser (hopefully a good foster home - some are very good, but I know of a few that were almost as bad as being with the abusive parent), Irish Patti and her husband can then use the services of a private attorney to sue for visitation rights and/or custody, and custody can happen across state lines (I know of a case where that happened and CPS in two counties in two states were involved; it didn't work out but that was because the kid should never have been sent to the out-of-state person's household in the first place since there were terrible extenuating circumstances; kid came back to original location and was placed in a good foster home, finally).

      All my grandma-bear ire comes to the surface when I hear about kids being abused.  [IMHO, child abusers belong on that same (imaginary) deserted island with the spouse abusers and pedophiles and rapists..., never again to have contact by any means with normal people for the rest of their unnatural, meaningless, evil little lives.]

      I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

      by NonnyO on Mon Feb 24, 2014 at 05:28:19 PM PST

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      •  That carnivorous island in "Life of Pi"... n/t (2+ / 0-)
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        tubacat, NonnyO

        The Dutch kids' chorus Kinderen voor Kinderen wishes all the world's children freedom from hunger, ignorance, and war. ♥ ♥ ♥ Forget Neo — The One is Minori Urakawa

        by lotlizard on Mon Feb 24, 2014 at 07:22:14 PM PST

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        •  Hmmmm...? (1+ / 0-)
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          I didn't see Life of Pi...

          But if it's a deserted island with no communication or contact with normal non-criminal people in the outside world by any means..., then that works for me.

          ;-)

          I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

          by NonnyO on Mon Feb 24, 2014 at 09:53:04 PM PST

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