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  •  Dems should learn from this... (11+ / 0-)

    We have some traction already for raising the minimum wage.

    Let's throw OUR base some red meat for a change:

    Medicare for all.

    Guaranteed minimum income.

    Free college.

    Nationalize the banks.

    I'm sure the creative people here can come up with at least a few more populist ideas.

    Popular for a reason!


    The Fail will continue until actual torches and pitchforks are set in motion. - Pangolin@kunstler.com

    by No one gets out alive on Tue Feb 25, 2014 at 09:57:22 AM PST

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    •  legalize "dope"! (5+ / 0-)

      the rwnjs put "gay marriage" on the ballot to bring out the religious freaks, the Dems need to either put pot legalization issues on the ballot, or at least make it one of the talking points....

      I think the young snots who like pot certainly out-number the old farts who hate gays...

      They did it to us, we can do it back!

      "Ronald Reagan is DEAD! His policies live on but we're doing something about THAT!"

      by leftykook on Tue Feb 25, 2014 at 10:48:32 AM PST

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    •  Throw the meat where? (1+ / 0-)
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      apimomfan2

      to die in committee in the House?  Be filibustered in the Senate?  To be ignored by the right wing media?  Those things have a zero percent chance of being instituted until large Democratic majorities exist in both houses of Congress, we have a Democratic President, and can beat the idiots in the Supreme Court.  

      If those issues are put forth as serious bills right now, the vast majority of the US Democratic voters will not know about them because they don't read DKos.  CNN or Fox isn't going to tell them.  They won't pass so they'll end up like Obama's jobs bills, forgotten and languishing.  The few pickups in the base will be offset by the pickups of the right as they show their base that we truly are communists wanting to give away their precious earnings to the welfare crowd.  

      The only times in history where the things you listed moved forward were when Congress was solidly in the hands of Democrats and we had Democratic Presidents.

      •  The republicans know how to make a good show... (1+ / 0-)
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        isabelle hayes

        The original post here was about the R's energizing their base by making a show of introducing legislation that either had no real chance of passing, or surviving court review.

        It's all for show - and they do it well.

        WE need to up our game.  We have a base, and they need to see that we have big dreams, too.

        It's the popular support that will get liberal policies enacted as law.

        We won't get support if people don't know what we stand for.

        No one votes for weak tea.

        Marketing 101.  We suck at it.  


        The Fail will continue until actual torches and pitchforks are set in motion. - Pangolin@kunstler.com

        by No one gets out alive on Tue Feb 25, 2014 at 12:45:13 PM PST

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        •  Well you didn't address the part (0+ / 0-)

          where we have lost the messaging ability because the media is corrupt.  The R's can energize their base with tactics like that because the media will trumpet their legislation.  They hide ours.  

      •  You have to start at the state and local level (4+ / 0-)
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        manyamile, grollen, apimomfan2, artmartin

        just like the Republicans did (and still do). The problem is that we put too much emphasis on the Federal level and sometimes act like we wish the states would go away. Even if you think that semi-autonomous state governments are obsolete and would prefer centralizing all the country's government in Washington, it's not going to happen any time soon.

        The RR got their start by running candidates in school board elections where a 10% voter turnout would be considered fantastic and therefore a candidate with ideas approved of by only 5.01% of the population can win. There are probably many here who would prefer to see an expanded Department of Education taking over the functions of those boards. But the odds of that happening in any of our lifetimes are not to bet on. We've got to run at the state and local level to, and not act like it's beneath us.

        Unfortunately when smart and educated people get crazy ideas they can come up with plausibly truthy arguments. -- Andrew F Cockburn

        by ebohlman on Tue Feb 25, 2014 at 03:18:47 PM PST

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