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  •  Why are old enemies aligning? (5+ / 0-)

    Is it because of growth?  Or is is because they realize both will be lost unless they unite against the common enemy of secularism?  It could be either.

    “Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.” - John Steinbeck (Disputed)

    by RichM on Tue Feb 25, 2014 at 10:03:12 AM PST

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    •  old enemies aligning? (3+ / 0-)
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      Why are old enemies aligning?

      Is it because of growth?  Or is is because they realize both will be lost unless they unite against the common enemy of secularism?  It could be either.

      It's both.

      The door was opened after the Second Vatican Council (Vatican II) laid down the concept of the "new Ecumenism", whereunder Catholics were essentially ordered to accept Protestants as "separated brethren" rather than the enemies of humankind that ordinary Catholics had been taught before to view Protestants as. (Especially evangelical Protestants.)

      The fundamentalist-evangelical flavor of Protestant Christians then came out of the woodwork politically, making common cause with Catholics in the political arena while fundagelical doctrines and practices (like neopentecostalism) crept into Catholic practice.

      One of our diarist's points is that there are signs that this alliance is beginning to deteriorate, as the basic differences between historically authentic Christianity (Roman Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy) and the johnny-come-lately evangelicals re-commence eating at the seam-welds of an always fragile alliance.

      "It's high time (and then some) that we put an end to the exceptionalistic nonsense floating around in our culture and face the fact that either the economy works for all, or it doesn't work AT all." -- Sean McCullough (DailyKos user thanatokephaloides)

      by thanatokephaloides on Tue Feb 25, 2014 at 01:55:27 PM PST

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      •  a small note to the above (4+ / 0-)
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        When I said:

        One of our diarist's points is that there are signs that this alliance is beginning to deteriorate, as the basic differences between historically authentic Christianity (Roman Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy) and the johnny-come-lately evangelicals re-commence eating at the seam-welds of an always fragile alliance.
        I was not intending to pass judgment on any specific person's religious choices; but I was attempting to illustrate the deep-seated conflicts between fundamentalist evangelical Protestants and members of Christian denominations which can prove they were in open business during the first half of Christianity's existence.

        As my background is Roman Catholic, I'm accustomed to a certain way of stating these things. And, re-reading my comment, I now realize that it could be construed so as to offend fundagelicals because they are fundagelicals. I realize I should have used more level-headed language there.

        I apologize for any such problems.

            -- Sean McCullough

        "It's high time (and then some) that we put an end to the exceptionalistic nonsense floating around in our culture and face the fact that either the economy works for all, or it doesn't work AT all." -- Sean McCullough (DailyKos user thanatokephaloides)

        by thanatokephaloides on Tue Feb 25, 2014 at 05:48:19 PM PST

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