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  •  Tell me when the U.S. government has claimed... (60+ / 0-)

    ...that ANY of the documents released by Greenwald & Company are NOT authentic documents?

    (Furthermore, as noted in the GCHQ/NSA slide presentation in my latest post, it's stated that these programs were to be operational by Q1 2013.)

    Furthermore, I went to great lengths (complete with sourced material) to explain certain aspects of the quite incestuous GCHQ-NSA relationship, specifically to preempt folks claiming many of the things you're attempting to claim in these threads.

    So, either you've opted to ignore what I wrote, OR, you didn't read what I wrote. Either way, your comments fly in the face of many facts that we all now know about the matter.

    An excerpt from my most recent post in this community...

    1.) This latest story originated over at Great Britain's version of America's National Security Agency (NSA), known as Government Communications Headquarters (a/k/a "GCHQ"), but that shouldn't belie the greater reality that somewhere in the neighborhood of 2,000 NSA employees work there, across the pond.

    2.) Virtually all of GCHQ, including the 2,000+/- NSA employees that work at that agency's offices in Great Britain, maintains direct access to virtually all NSA databases, including "PRISM," "Boundless Informant," and everything in-between.

    3.) For at least a decade, it's been a widely-know fact in the intelligence community that all five nations participating in the Five Eyes program do each others' "dirty work." But, don't take my word for it, here's a column from Great Britain's Independent, from 2004 (and per my post here on December 27, 2013), to explain this...

    How Britain and the US Keep Watch on the World
    By Phillip Knightley
    Independent (via Global Policy Forum)
    February 27, 2004

    From the National Security Agency’s imposing headquarters at Fort Meade, Maryland, ringed by a double-chain fence topped by barbed wire with strands of electrified wire between them, America “bugs” the world. Nothing politically or militarily significant, whether mentioned in a telephone call, in a conversation in the office of the secretary general of the United Nations, Kofi Annan, or in a company fax or e-mail, escapes its attention.

    Its computers – measured in acres occupied by them rather than simple figures – “vacuum the entire electromagnetic spectrum”, homing in on “key words” which may suggest something of interest to NSA customers is being conveyed. The NSA costs at least $3.5bn (£1.9bn) a year to run. It employs at least 20,000 officers (not counting the 100,000 servicemen and civilians around the world over whom it has control). Its shredders process 40 tons of paper a day.

    Its junior partner is Britain’s Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) at Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, the eavesdropping organisation for which Katharine Gun worked. Like NSA, GCHQ is a highly secret operation. Until 1983, when one of its officers, Geoffrey Prime, was charged with spying for the Russians, the Government had refused to reveal what GCHQ’s real role was, no doubt because its operations in peacetime were without a legal basis. Its security is maintained by massive and deliberately intimidating security. Newspapers have been discouraged from mentioning it; a book by a former GCHQ officer, Jock Kane, was seized by Special Branch police officers and a still photograph of its headquarters was banned by the Independent Broadcasting Authority, leaving a blank screen during a World in Action programme. As with NSA, the size of GCHQ’s staff at Cheltenham, about 6,500, gives no real indication of its strength. It has monitoring stations in Cyprus, West Germany, and Australia and smaller ones elsewhere. Much of its overseas work is done by service personnel. Its budget is thought to be more than £300m a year. A large part of this is funded by the United States in return for the right to run NSA listening stations in Britain – Chicksands, Bedfordshire; Edzell, Scotland; Mentworth Hill, Harrogate; Brawdy, Wales – and on British territory around the world.

    The collaboration between the two agencies offers many advantages to both. Not only does it make monitoring the globe easier, it solves tricky legal problems and is the basis of the Prime Minister’s statement yesterday that all Britain’s bugging is lawful. The two agencies simply swap each other’s dirty work. GCHQ eavesdrops on calls made by American citizens and the NSA monitors calls made by British citizens, thus allowing each government plausibly to deny it has tapped its own citizens’ calls, as they do. The NSA station at Menwith Hill intercepts all international telephone calls made from Britain and GCHQ has a list of American citizens whose phone conversations interest the NSA…

    (Bold type is diarist's emphasis.)

    4.) Last, but definitely not least, I'd like to point out that there are somewhere in the neighborhood of many hundreds of thousands of communications, social media and public relations firms and individual consultants that will gladly "manage" your brand or personal reputation and/or promote it. Or, on the other hand, these same firms will trash competing brands or individuals (to accomplish same); and, in so doing, many of them will gladly infiltrate social media platforms throughout the world for a price. You may find many of these hundreds of thousands (if you do a Google search, you'll receive more than 43 million returns on the search) of services firms and individuals by clicking RIGHT HERE...

    "I always thought if you worked hard enough and tried hard enough, things would work out. I was wrong." --Katharine Graham

    by bobswern on Tue Feb 25, 2014 at 09:31:47 PM PST

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