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  •  The causes of suicide (7+ / 0-)

    Suicide is a pretty complex human behavior.  It is accurate to say that the cause of suicide is multi-factorial.

    As you point out, guns cannot be the sole cause of suicide.

    But guns are plentiful (here in the USA), easy to use, and highly lethal.  This is why more completed suicides in the USA are accomplished using a gun than all other suicide methods combined.

    Everyone knows that when you remove a lethal means from a suicidal person, that person is more likely to live than to die.  This is why psychiatrists recommend inpatient hospitalization for people at high risk for suicide.

    If we were to remove ALL the guns from the country, we would still have suicides.  BUT, we would have fewer suicides.  

    "The fool doth think he is wise: the wise man knows himself to be a fool" - W. Shakespeare

    by Hugh Jim Bissell on Thu Mar 20, 2014 at 11:43:16 AM PDT

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    •  Picking at a fine point of your statement (2+ / 0-)
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      Everyone knows that when you remove a lethal means from a suicidal person, that person is more likely to live than to die.
      I am not sure that I accept this statement as written.  I believe it would be correct to say that they are more likely to live, as there would be fewer lethal means for them to use, but logically to say removing one means implies that they are more likely to live that to die holds.  If their chance of death was X% to begin with, removing one means of death does not automatically reduce X to below 50%.

      Similarly, I think it is arguable whether or not if we removed all guns that we would in fact have fewer suicides.  We may, or we may not.  As with most complex things, of which this issue certainly is, it defies an empirical answer.

      "It's not surveillance, it's data collection to keep you safe"

      by blackhand on Thu Mar 20, 2014 at 01:18:07 PM PDT

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