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  •  So why is Kay Hagan opposing (2+ / 0-)
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    Odysseus, Ahianne

    ...raising the minimum wage, along with her good buddies Mary Landrieu and Mark Warner?   People who vote Republican want the minimum wage raised.  Why don't these Democrats?

    Not to mention fuzzing the issue with Thom Tillis.

    Whose pocket is Hagan, Landrieu, and Warner in?

    50 states, 210 media market, 435 Congressional Districts, 3080 counties, 192,480 precincts

    by TarheelDem on Wed Feb 26, 2014 at 04:14:37 PM PST

    •  Hagan has to calculate 3 things for each issue: (2+ / 0-)
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      Odysseus, Ahianne

      1) whether it's a deal-breaker for the non-Dem voters in NC (in a very tough re-election),

      2) whether Harry Reid absolutely needs her vote on that issue (and you'd better believe he's part of her decision-making),

      3) what Tillis' position on the issue will be.

      re: 1) It's hard to win a second term for US senate in NC.

      re: 2) It is a common strategy for a party leader to allow people up for re-election in tough districts to vote against the party.

      re: 3) Now that Tillis has started to come out with teh really crazy, Hagan may have leeway to change her position.

      •  It's the Dem voters that Hagan (3+ / 0-)
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        UnionMade, JeffW, GreatLakeSailor

        ...is going to have to get to the polls, not the Republican voters.  And you imagine that people working at minimum wage, regardless of party affiliation, are going to massively oppose an overdue raise in the minimum wage?

        How exactly is any district in the US a tough district on raising the minimum wage?

        I'm tired of the lame excuses about why Democrats cannot act like Democrats.  It has been proven to be the kiss of political death on the Blue Dogs.

        And it suspiciously looks like these Democrats are so tied into the 1% that they are not willing to do one thing for the people who actually vote for them.

        This is a tough election because the Democratic establishment in North Carolina became so lazy that they lost in 2010 and so corrupt that they lost in 2012.

        50 states, 210 media market, 435 Congressional Districts, 3080 counties, 192,480 precincts

        by TarheelDem on Thu Feb 27, 2014 at 08:56:19 AM PST

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        •  I agree with a lot of what you say. (1+ / 0-)
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          JeffW

          Especially about the lazy Dem establishment. No GOTV worth mentioning, in 2010.

          But Hagan cannot win without hefty chunks of indie and GOP votes, even if we get 100% of the Dems to the polls.  

          Because, as you sort of say, some progressive Dems will leave the ballot blank if Hagan strikes them as too Blue-Doggy. (I would call myself a pragmatic progressive, which means I have and I will continue to vote for her, despite several issues I completely disagree with her on--particularly regarding some of her labor stances. But she's a born Southerner, and I'm what my name implies. And I have never known of a  perfect candidate.)

          My other point of difference with you is that I think that many retired southern white people have the same gut feeling about the minimum wage as they have against unions. "If you are a productive, hard-working individual, you don't need some union, or some gubmint, to get you the pay you deserve. And if you're a good, successful employer, you're the best judge of what you can pay your workers." So while I think they might "survey" as supporting higher minimum wages, they don't necessarily mean a minimum dictated by a law. They just think a lot of jobs should pay better.

          And of course every one of those people will vote. So the trick is keeping them happy enough with Hagan not to "change horses in midstream."

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