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  •  Well humans naturally contain formaldehyde also (1+ / 0-)
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    If formaldehyde is carcinogenic, and I think that is still being debated, then one has to look at exposure durations and concentrations.  There are certainly health effects from high exposures.

    Benzene, not so much debate-it is carcinogenic.  But since the body has repair mechanisms again one has to look at exposures.

    Koch on the other hand appears to have a great deal of toxicity even from a short term exposure, inducing nausea, cold sweats and nightmares [snark].

    Note my opinions are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of myemployer.

    Democrats give you the Bill of Rights; Republicans sell you a bill of goods!

    by barbwires on Fri Feb 28, 2014 at 02:17:23 PM PST

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    •  Yeah, I'm just trying to understand how if (0+ / 0-)

      affects them in a way that they'd pay any mind to it - after all, don't they have bigger issues to fry like stealing elections?

      In any event, formaldehyde is widely available to consumers even over the internet

      so is benzene for that matter - for example it's in gasoline that sold to consumers with virtually no regulation or safeguards.

      And no one really cares.  So what are the Koch's angle here?  I'm just very curious.

    •  depends on the route and duration of exposure (0+ / 0-)

      Formaldehyde itself is highly carcinogenic but also highly reactive - formaldehyde absorbed into the bloodstream is converted to formic acid within 90 seconds. Formic acid is then excreted through the kidney as sodium salt or is further oxidized to carbon dioxide and water.

      •  I remember... (1+ / 0-)
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        A number of years back, the company I worked for moved from one location to another, and presumably because of lease expiration or expense, we were asked to move to the new location the moment the space was "ready."  That meant that those on the east end of the floor moved in while the walls at the west end were still being painted.  

        But, to the point, there was new carpeting on the floor, and it contained a massive amount of formaldehyde.  

        For the first eight weeks or so, each Monday, within the first half hour of my arrival, my eyelids were swollen and my eyes were itchy and very red as the formaldehyde fumes rising from the carpet into the air and/or on the fuzz rising from the carpet caused them extreme irritation.  

        By the end of each weekend, my eyes recovered, fortunately, yet each Monday morning, they were again affected immediately as they were assaulted once more by the formaldehyde fumes.  

        Several others had similar, tho less severe, symptoms.

        My bosses, of course, exhibited no sympathy or understanding, and I have long since left the company, but I still wonder periodically, as my eyesight worsens, if the formaldehyde caused lasting problems.  

        •  Formaldehyde is a potent sensitizer (0+ / 0-)

          Used to work with it a lot in a pathology lab; now I cannot even go near the permanent press section in a fabric store because of reacting to the relatively low amounts of formaldehyde off gassing from the sheets of fabric.

          Democrats give you the Bill of Rights; Republicans sell you a bill of goods!

          by barbwires on Sun Mar 02, 2014 at 05:11:17 PM PST

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