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  •  The rule is (6+ / 0-)

    DBAD in other people's diaries. If you don't like a diary, HR the tip jar, state your reasons and move on instead of trying to start fights with the diarist or people in the comments. Is that so difficult to comprehend? BTW, some of the front pagers also support gun rights, and they've been here longer than either you or I have. We're here to stay, along with the ~40% of Dems who own guns or support gun rights, whether you happen to approve or not.

    "A lie is not the other side of a story; it's just a lie."

    by happy camper on Fri Feb 28, 2014 at 08:16:41 AM PST

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    •  He broke the rules (3+ / 0-)
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      by being a dick in his own diary. Had he posted a warning, most people would have skipped the diary and moved on.
      Why are any of you surprised at this reaction? Honestly, when I saw this diary, I thought at least one of the RKBA group would come out and say "Wow, dumb move to post this video when we're here trying to convince people that MORE people should own guns."
      And you wonder why your groups is losing people like me who used to support you.
      SMH

      Your beliefs don't make you a better person. Your behavior does.

      by skohayes on Fri Feb 28, 2014 at 08:25:08 AM PST

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    •  No, the rule is DBAD... period... (1+ / 0-)
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      Please cite the rule that states that it's okay to be a dick  in one's own diary…

      I'll wait…

      Baby, where I come from...

      by ThatSinger on Fri Feb 28, 2014 at 08:36:30 AM PST

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    •  "Front pagers"? Name one… (0+ / 0-)

      That is either a member of or openly supports RKBA (the group)...

      I can name a pretty significant front pager that you guys lost…

      Funny how you cite "40%" as if it were somehow a majority, completely disregarding the 60% who don't adhere to your unfettered "gun rights" position... this is not the Senate... The minority does not dictate to the majority… Not here… Not ever…

      Baby, where I come from...

      by ThatSinger on Fri Feb 28, 2014 at 08:43:17 AM PST

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      •  Unfettered? (4+ / 0-)
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        Again you deliberately misstate the position of those you disagree with. No surprise there.

        But, do you really think it wise to disregard the position of 40% of our party? I don't, and neither would anyone else who wants Democrats to win elections.

        Oh, and FPer Denise Oliver Velez is a member of RKBA.

        "A lie is not the other side of a story; it's just a lie."

        by happy camper on Fri Feb 28, 2014 at 09:30:12 AM PST

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        •  "Effectively" unfettered… (0+ / 0-)

          Does that make you a "happier" camper?

          By the way, she's also a member of FLAP and Shut Down the NRA…

          Anything else?

          Baby, where I come from...

          by ThatSinger on Fri Feb 28, 2014 at 11:09:25 AM PST

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        •  You (and presumably the diarist)… (0+ / 0-)

          Appear to have no problem disregarding and antagonizing  60% of your party...

          Take this diary for example… Please…

          But seriously, would you say that support for RKBA has grown or waned in this community?

          Baby, where I come from...

          by ThatSinger on Fri Feb 28, 2014 at 11:14:20 AM PST

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          •  RKBA membership (3+ / 0-)
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            has increased, while the number of negative commenters in our diaries has decreased. Draw your own conclusions.

            "A lie is not the other side of a story; it's just a lie."

            by happy camper on Sat Mar 01, 2014 at 05:32:00 AM PST

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            •  "Diary recommended by"… (0+ / 0-)

              Has remained static if not decreased… Take this one for instance…

              Check the last, oh I don't know 20 RKBA diaries… rec'ed by the same tired handful of people… Check the tip jars… Same thing…

              And I guarantee "diaries" like this one are not garnering you any new supporters……

              I might ask you to quantify the "fewer negative comments" claim, but I know you can't… and won't... but keep telling yourself you're becoming increasingly more popular if it makes you feel better…

              Draw your own conclusions...

              Baby, where I come from...

              by ThatSinger on Sat Mar 01, 2014 at 06:31:54 AM PST

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              •  This is not (3+ / 0-)
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                an RKBA diary. But keep on moving those goalposts. It just shows that you've got nothing, and makes you look foolish.

                "A lie is not the other side of a story; it's just a lie."

                by happy camper on Sat Mar 01, 2014 at 07:00:37 AM PST

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                •  I said "check the last 20 RKBA diaries"... (0+ / 0-)

                  Why complain about "moving goalposts" when you haven't even attempted a kick?

                  Go back and check the last 20 RKBA diaries... Count the number of recommends... Take note of the same tired names… I'll wait…

                  Speaking of "moving the goalposts", love the way you trumpet a SINGLE "pager" as a member despite the fact that she hasn't written (or recommended) any RKBA diaries recently, if at all, but yet a diary written by a RKBA member ABOUT GUNS is not a "RKBA diary"?

                  Anyway, if you choose to hallucinate growing support for RKBA, I'm happy to laugh at it…

                  As predicted, you declined to quantify your "fewer negative comments" assertion... Interesting…

                  Baby, where I come from...

                  by ThatSinger on Sat Mar 01, 2014 at 07:22:41 AM PST

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                  •  you spend an inordinate amount of effort checking (2+ / 0-)
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                    the tip jars and recommends of RKBA diaries, and by the way this is not one, in case you've somehow lost your way.

                    All of life does not revolve around guns. If you notice I've responded to none of your comments here. You add nothing, you seem single minded over guns somehow. There's a whole world out there, why not go take a look at some of it?

                    “Conservation… is a positive exercise of skill and insight, not merely a negative exercise of abstinence and caution…” Aldo Leopold

                    by ban nock on Sat Mar 01, 2014 at 08:33:48 AM PST

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                    •  Good call on the ignoring. (2+ / 0-)
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                      You can see, if you bother to look at the history of this user, that it's nothing but trolling for its' own sake.

                      Some people see that the rules generally aren't enforced when it comes to some subjects, and use those to vent their ire.

                      Like a child throwing a tantrum, they are best either ignored outright, or laughed at, that a supposed adult is acting so childish.

                      That they bring the overall level of discourse of the site down with such foolishness is a sad reality, but it is the interwebz, after all, and that's just a part of it.  You just hate to see it at DailyKos, where the level of discourse was so high, for so long.

                      "No amount of belief makes something a fact." --James Randi

                      by theatre goon on Sat Mar 01, 2014 at 08:43:58 AM PST

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                    •  I'm truly hurt that you "ignore" me... (0+ / 0-)

                      Interesting how you couldn't resist chiming in way way way way way downstream... Seems as if you've been paying more attention to me than you care to knowledge…

                      Meanwhile, i comment on a wide variety of issues… You seem kinda stuck on guns and killing things… Oh yes and of course the "great outdoors"… As a great place to kill things…

                      The assertion was made that support for RKBA was "growing" and the antipathy against RKBA was "diminishing", hence I referenced diary recommendations and tip jars as a means for measuring support (or lack thereof)… The numbers don't lie… You nor your group have managed to move the needle an inch… The same tired names propping up the same tired dreck...

                      Certainly this "diary" didn't win you any fans… Or are you ignoring all of the comments?

                      Trust me after this revolting display, I won't be reading anymore of yours...

                      Baby, where I come from...

                      by ThatSinger on Sat Mar 01, 2014 at 09:27:22 AM PST

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                •  Aren't they just adorable... (1+ / 0-)
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                  ...when they make some sort of nonsensical assertion, then tie themselves into rhetorical knots trying to support it when they're called on it?

                  It's like Rush Limbaugh trying to convince people that his nonsense is meant as "humor" when someone points out just how ridiculous he really is.

                  "No amount of belief makes something a fact." --James Randi

                  by theatre goon on Sat Mar 01, 2014 at 08:41:02 AM PST

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                  •  I made a fact-based assertion... (0+ / 0-)

                    I challenge you to do the same... check the number of recommends for the last 20 or so RKBA diaries and check the names of the recommenders... they're remarkably static, certainly not indicative of any growing support for your group... same tired names propping up the same tired themes... ad nauseam...

                    But keep pretending you and your "colleagues" are engendering anything but ill will with your swill...

                    I made an incorrect presumption that this was a RKBA diary... are you seriously trying to distance RKBA from it? Interesting... please proceed...

                    Baby, where I come from...

                    by ThatSinger on Sat Mar 01, 2014 at 10:26:23 AM PST

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