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  •  Intellectual Ballast indeed. (0+ / 0-)

    If the Tea Party movement had any intellectual ballast (whatever that is), or intestinal fortitude, they would just call themselves anarchists and be done with it. Unfortunately, that would mean giving up their right to "mooch" off of "The People" via Social Security and Medicare, as well as the potential to legislate their bizarre, disjointed ideology onto the rest of us.

    Probably the operational definition of being deluded into advocating policies that are contrary to one's own self-interest.

    You know...morons.

    I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!

    by itsjim on Fri Feb 28, 2014 at 09:48:47 AM PST

    •  You've mischaraterized anarchism (0+ / 0-)

      Anarchism, historically going back to at least 1840, is left wing, anti-capitalist, against private property (used in production) and against wage slavery. It is against hierarchy, patriarchy, and would democratize the production, with workers self-managing the workplace.

      "The political arena leaves one no alternative, one must either be a dunce or a rogue." Emma Goldman, Anarchism and Other Essays

      by ZhenRen on Fri Feb 28, 2014 at 11:45:20 AM PST

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      •  Well, which flavor? (0+ / 0-)

        Anarchism has more flavors than Baskin Robbins. As such, it's virtually impossible to neatly characterize it.

        I was referring to the more general political philosophy, the origin of which predates your reference by 300 years, and stresses the stateless society, i.e. without rulers.

        Besides, I thought the snark was self-evident.

        So endith the trick.

        by itsjim on Fri Feb 28, 2014 at 12:57:20 PM PST

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        •  No, actually (0+ / 0-)

          Anarchism as a term was coined in 1840 by Proudhon. I know the history. And the first writings about anarchism (not expressly using that term) was more than 2500 years ago by Taoists.

          And it opposes a central authority in any form, not just the State. Although there are various forms of anarchism, they are all marked by anti-capitalism, opposition to wage slavery, opposition to central authority rather than direct, horizontal democracy.

          And anarcho-capitalists are not considered to be true anarchists by those who have historically developed the theory. It is an oxymoron, an illogical contradiction in terms, since capitalism involves wage slavery, and authority of the owning class over the working class, one of the principle forms of inequality which all anarchists oppose. Anarchists call this propertarianism.

          As to snark, that's fine, but the usage is still logically incorrect, even for snark.

          "The political arena leaves one no alternative, one must either be a dunce or a rogue." Emma Goldman, Anarchism and Other Essays

          by ZhenRen on Fri Feb 28, 2014 at 05:08:40 PM PST

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