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    revolutions arent necessarily all legal. as always, legality and legitimacy must be kept apart.

    They performed a revolution, quite right. Legality was out the window when Yanukovich had special police fire live on demonstrators.

    in the end, politics is what counts. Law and legality follow politics, not the other way round. Note that Yanukovich´s own party voted for the constitution change and for removal of Yanukovitch, and accused him of treason to his country. That wasnt just partisans of one side.

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      Claudius Bombarnac

      Yes, law and legality follow politics. That is to be roundly condemned, when the laws are legitimate. As far as I know, the law requiring the president to sign a change to a constitution that lets parliament vote out a president was passed legitimately.

      Republicans would love to vote out Obama in favor of someone they elected on the spot, without even bothering with impeachment.

      I'm not saying I prefer Yanukovych to have stayed, or that I know there was a better, legal way. To the contrary, I explicitly said the opposite.

      But I also said that Yanukovych says his ouster wasn't legal. Which does appear to be true, and does matter (even if not enough to undo).

      You agree it's a revolution. In fact you agreed with me entirely in that post. Except where you imply that law and legality don't count when they disagree with politics. I disagree with that.

      "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - HST

      by DocGonzo on Fri Feb 28, 2014 at 12:43:46 PM PST

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