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  •  All very true, Joan. (1+ / 0-)
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    Aunt Pat

    And all very gratifying to me as well.  

    But let's not ignore the president's and Democrats' general ineptitude.  Even the hillbillies are eventually going to figure out the ACA is a good thing and then we'll be talking about how much better it could have and should have been had we stuck to our principles.

    •  ineptitude? (2+ / 0-)
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      Aunt Pat, Shawn87

      what about the game is rigged do you not understand?

      how much better it could have been
      pipe dream.

      -You want to change the system, run for office.

      by Deep Texan on Fri Feb 28, 2014 at 10:06:42 AM PST

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      •  Don't talk down to me. (0+ / 0-)

        I understand, yeah, it's rigged.  That's why we need to fight, stand up and act like real Democrats.

        But there's no time for that if we hang out in progressive blogs all day gloating about how much smarter we are.  If we're so smart why don't we unrig the goddamn system?  All it takes is a few more progressives in congress instead of sorry wimp democrats-in-name-only.

        •  fight how? (1+ / 0-)
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          you need to go somewhere else with your wimp democrats bullshit.

          your language use is offensive and you're not providing any method to achieve more than what we have.

          -You want to change the system, run for office.

          by Deep Texan on Fri Feb 28, 2014 at 01:07:17 PM PST

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          •  Yes, I am. (0+ / 0-)

            First, fight AT ALL instead of negotiating with GOP terrorists.

            Fight by calling out the Koch brothers as liars instead of meekly apologizing for a glitchy rollout.  The president should address the lies directly and he should debunk every "horror story" lie.

            Stop supporting so-called Democrats who subvert our agenda.

            Fight for our core values instead of negotiating them away, e.g., the "grand bargain," and what was chained CPI doing on the table in the first place?  

        •  It's all about the number oh yay (0+ / 0-)

          I got to agree with you oh yay and your passion to stand up and fight.
          But we just don't have the number in the House of Representatives, We do in the Senate but the Dem are thin there also, with the filibuster rules that are in place
          We really don't have a majority rule in the Senate.
          The Senate is the only thing that is keeping us on at least an even keel.
          In the House the Dem's can't even bring bills up on the floor, unless they use a discharge petition, in which they will need to get some repub's to sign on,and it depend on how many dem's sign on to the bill on the number of repub's so the number will vary for a simple majority

          I understand your frustration, it just that the gov. is about at least 3 to 5 year behind the times.  

          Johnny B where the Jobs?

    •  And we'll all time travel to the past (2+ / 0-)
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      and just tell everyone that if you'll just make it Single Payer, it'll be great for this country.  And Lieberman and Nelson and others will vote against it, and then we won't have any health care improvements.

      At least the paradox will destroy the universe.

      "Harass us, because we really do pay attention. Look at who's on the ballot, and vote for the candidate you agree with the most. The next time, you get better choices." - Barney Frank

      by anonevent on Fri Feb 28, 2014 at 10:06:50 AM PST

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      •  Facile. I'm not talking about the past. (0+ / 0-)

        The past is the past.  I'm talking about right now.

        Why aren't we fighting harder, fighting smarter, right now?  Where is the national ad campaign featuring the president denouncing the Koch brothers and the tea party as LIARS?

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