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    AnnetteK, Subterranean

    That whole story is similar to what happened in Egypt. We've been pumping money into their "civil society" for decades. What happened?

    Mubarak gets run out, Brotherhood wins the vote (we pout), and surprise, surprise we see new leadership more US friendly.

    I'm not saying Ukraine's gov't wasn't corrupt. However, it seems like elections/negotiation could have solved the issue. Clearly we were meddling in Russia's sphere of influence and their reaction (as well as large portion of the Ukrainian population) is understandable.

    •  I'm not so sure (1+ / 0-)
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      fcvaguy

      elections/negotiations would have solved anything but to be honest I'm more interested to see how Omidyars new jounalists will report on this, or if they will.

      We should attack now when they'd least expect it #WarOnChristmas

      by AnnetteK on Fri Feb 28, 2014 at 03:22:35 PM PST

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    •  Russia's sphere of influence? (1+ / 0-)
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      fcvaguy

      The Ukrainians don't consider themselves part of Russia's influence zone. In fact, they were fighting the recent revolution precisely to avoid being under Russia's influence, which is what Yanukovych wanted.

      •  So you don't believe that the Russian majority (0+ / 0-)

        in Crimea would vote to go with Putin?  Really?

        202-224-3121 to Congress in D.C. USE it! You can tell how big a person is by what it takes to discourage them. "We're not perfect, but they're nuts."--Barney Frank 01/02/2012

        by cany on Sat Mar 01, 2014 at 11:35:15 AM PST

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        •  Probably they would. (0+ / 0-)

          At the same time, you've also got the Tatars, who were ethnically cleansed by Stalin. IMO their voice should also matter. Maybe a compromise on the lines of greater autonomy could be reached.

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