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    I hate to be pedantic, but that's exactly what the Rada did. Yanukovich was impeached by a unanimous vote -- which took place weeks after he began issuing orders for riot police to use force against peaceful demonstrators, journalists, and medics.

    Yes, there was undoubtedly a radical element on the Maidan. But it's hard to blame people for fighting back. It is up to the interim government to ensure the rule of law still applies in Ukraine, and there have been positive signs -- the lack of looting, for instance, and the largely peaceful disbanding of riot police groups loyal to the old regime.

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    by SaoMagnifico on Fri Feb 28, 2014 at 05:31:13 PM PST

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      if we are going to be pedantic, I'd have to point out that having thousands of armed and angry protestors in the streets shouting for blood, and having already taken several government buildings, is hardly a fair context for a vote.   From some of the stories that I've heard, Right Sector was actually occupying the the building at the time of the vote.

      For all those who praise the protestors, I'd point out that the American equivalent of what happened in Ukraine would be armed members of the Tea Party taking to the streets, demanding that Obama be removed from office.  After months of protesting, police attempt to remove then, making them only angrier.  Finally, they start making armed occupations of government buildings.  When things begin to spin out of control, the European foreign ministers come to arrange a deal were Obama will accept new elections if only the Tea Party will leave the government buildings.  The Republican party signs off on the deal, but the Tea Party just won't have it and announces that the "revolution" is on.  Finally, Congress agrees to impeach President Obama, and announces that he's a wanted man.

      I'd wager that you would find that objectionable. Why is it ok to do the same in Ukraine?

      by ManfromMiddletown on Fri Feb 28, 2014 at 08:04:26 PM PST

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      •  Yanukovych Was Corrupt (0+ / 0-)

        Yanukovych was totally corrupt, a Russian puppet, and his election was a sham.  The US equivalent here would not be the tea party overthrowing the liberal president; rather, it would be the progressives overthrowing some sham Koch brothers/teagbagger president.

        "Art is a lie that makes you realize the truth." - Picasso

        by she the technocrat on Sun Mar 02, 2014 at 06:46:28 PM PST

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