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  •  Perfect Example. Cuba is WAY TO CLOSE (3+ / 0-)
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    LordMike, Involuntary Exile, FinchJ

    We were willing to go to war over it, they weren't, Kennedy's actions make sense. Khruschev gambled, and boy did he gamble big, but even he took missles out of Turkey for Missles out of Cuba in the end.

    The only point I'm making, is it's be a disservice to truth, and anyone idealistic but not realistic....to imagine there's a contingent of America / Western European officials thinking "Yes, Ukraine is the Red Line. If Putin makes a move, then kiss your wives goodbye and we initiate operation "Day After Tomorrow."

    Now, if it was Poland, probably yes. WWIII. Ukraine....no...

    •  no, not for Poland either (2+ / 0-)
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      LordMike, Involuntary Exile

      There's no way we're going to risk a nuclear war with Russia over the Ukraine and neither would we risk it for Poland.

      We just aren't.

      Fortunately, Russia has no intention of trying to conquer the Ukraine, let alone Poland, but if they did there would be no direct military response by the United States.

      •  Poland is part of NATO (2+ / 0-)
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        kingfishstew, Bensdad

        We'd have to intervene.  If we didn't, eventually all of europe would fall under the new iron curtain of mother russia.

        GODSPEED TO THE WISCONSIN FOURTEEN!

        by LordMike on Fri Feb 28, 2014 at 09:58:23 PM PST

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        •  we don't HAVE to do anything and we wouldn't (0+ / 0-)

          NATO Schmato. This is all theoretical, but my strong guess is that when push came to shove we'd make at best a symbolic response (a few cruise missiles, say).

          And, for the record, all this rhetoric about "the new iron curtain" is neocon bullshit. Russia has tried to expand their sphere of influence in their vicinity, much like the United States has relentlessly striven to expand its sphere of influence to cover the entire surface of the world, but there isn't a shred of evidence that Putin intends to expand the territorial boundaries of Russia or create a new Warsaw Pact.

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