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  •  "feel safer". (0+ / 0-)

    I think that the disconnect between the feeling of fear and the extraordinarily low actual danger one is in is exactly the problem.

    This is the reason & justification for things like the Patriot Act, stop and search, Gitmo etc.
    Fortunately the cure for unreasonable fear is simply to educate oneself on the facts.

    After all, the areas with a higher rate of guns per capita & thus less ignorance about firearms are also the places with less fear of guns.

    What are the chances you will die in a car accident while sorting a bunch of donated clothes in a building? Or that you will accidentally be strangled by a rope while doing so? Do you have information on that you'd like to share, Frank?
    Statistically far higher than being accidentally shot.

    Again, from the CDC report commissioned by Pres. Obama "The number of unintentional deaths due to firearm-related incidents accounted for less than 1 percent of all unintentional fatalities in 2010.”.
    A person is over ninety-nine times more likely to be accidentally killed by any other object than a with a firearm.

    The antidote to unreasonable fear is irrefutable fact.

    Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.

    by FrankRose on Thu Mar 13, 2014 at 06:31:38 PM PDT

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    •  I find this research incredibly compelling (3+ / 0-)
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      TheFern, Daniel Case, WakeUpNeo
      1-3 Guns are not used millions of times each year in self-defense

      We use epidemiological theory to explain why the “false positive” problem for rare events can lead to large overestimates of the incidence of rare diseases or rare phenomena such as self-defense gun use. We then try to validate the claims of many millions of annual self-defense uses against available evidence. We find that the claim of many millions of annual self-defense gun uses by American citizens is invalid.

      Hemenway, David. Survey research and self-defense gun use: An explanation of extreme overestimates. Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology. 1997; 87:1430-1445.

      Hemenway, David. The myth of millions of annual self-defense gun uses: A case study of survey overestimates of rare events. Chance (American Statistical Association). 1997; 10:6-10.

      Cook, Philip J; Ludwig, Jens; Hemenway, David. The gun debate’s new mythical number: How many defensive uses per year? Journal of Policy Analysis and Management. 1997; 16:463-469.

      4. Most purported self-defense gun uses are gun uses in escalating arguments and are both socially undesirable and illegal

      We analyzed data from two national random-digit-dial surveys conducted under the auspices of the Harvard Injury Control Research Center.  Criminal court judges who read the self-reported accounts of the purported self-defense gun use rated a majority as being illegal, even assuming that the respondent had a permit to own and to carry a gun, and that the respondent had described the event honestly from his own perspective.

      Hemenway, David; Miller, Matthew; Azrael, Deborah. Gun use in the United States: Results from two national surveys. Injury Prevention. 2000; 6:263-267.

      5. Firearms are used far more often to intimidate than in self-defense.

      Using data from a national random-digit-dial telephone survey conducted under the direction of the Harvard Injury Control Center, we examined the extent and nature of offensive gun use.  We found that firearms are used far more often to frighten and intimidate than they are used in self-defense. All reported cases of criminal gun use, as well as many of the so-called self-defense gun uses, appear to be socially undesirable.

      Hemenway, David; Azrael, Deborah. The relative frequency of offensive and defensive gun use: Results of a national survey. Violence and Victims. 2000; 15:257-272.

      6. Guns in the home are used more often to intimidate intimates than to thwart crime.

      Using data from a national random-digit-dial telephone survey conducted under the direction of the Harvard Injury Control Research Center, we investigated how and when guns are used in the home. We found that guns in the home are used more often to frighten intimates than to thwart crime; other weapons are far more commonly used against intruders than are guns.

      Publication: Azrael, Deborah R; Hemenway, David. In the safety of your own home: Results from a national survey of gun use at home. Social Science and Medicine. 2000; 50:285-91.

      7. Adolescents are far more likely to be threatened with a gun than to use one in self-defense.

      We analyzed data from a telephone survey of 5,800 California adolescents aged 12-17, which asked questions about gun threats against, and self-defense gun use by these young people.  We found that these young people were far more likely to be threatened with a gun than to use a gun in self-defense, and most of the reported self-defense gun uses were hostile interactions between armed adolescents.  Males, smokers, binge drinkers, those who threatened others and whose parents were less likely to know their whereabouts were more likely both to be threatened with a gun and to use a gun in self-defense.

      Hemenway, David; Miller, Matthew.  Gun threats against and self-defense gun use by California adolescents. Archives of Pediatrics and Adolescent Medicine. 2004; 158:395-400.

      8. Criminals who are shot are typically the victims of crime

      Using data from a survey of detainees in a Washington D.C. jail, we worked with a prison physician to investigate the circumstances of gunshot wounds to these criminals.
      We found that one in four of these detainees had been wounded, in events that appear unrelated to their incarceration. Most were shot when they were victims of robberies, assaults and crossfires. Virtually none report being wounded by a “law-abiding citizen.”

      May, John P; Hemenway, David. Oen, Roger; Pitts, Khalid R. When criminals are shot: A survey of Washington DC jail detainees. Medscape General Medicine. 2000; June 28.

      9-10. Few criminals are shot by decent law abiding citizens

      Using data from surveys of detainees in six jails from around the nation, we worked with a prison physician to determine whether criminals seek hospital medical care when they are shot. Criminals almost always go to the hospital when they are shot. To believe fully the claims of millions of self-defense gun uses each year would mean believing that decent law-abiding citizens shot hundreds of thousands of criminals.  But the data from emergency departments belie this claim, unless hundreds of thousands of wounded criminals are afraid to seek medical care. But virtually all criminals who have been shot went to the hospital, and can describe in detail what happened there.

      May, John P; Hemenway, David. Oen, Roger; Pitts, Khalid R. Medical Care Solicitation by Criminals with Gunshot Wound Injuries: A Survey of Washington DC Jail Detainees. Journal of Trauma. 2000; 48:130-132.

      May, John P; Hemenway, David. Do Criminals Go to the Hospital When They are Shot? Injury Prevention 2002: 8:236-238.

      "Looking back over a lifetime, you see that love was the answer to everything." — Ray Bradbury

      by We Shall Overcome on Thu Mar 13, 2014 at 07:25:11 PM PDT

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    •  You still miss the point ... (1+ / 0-)
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      Being killed by all the other objects requires being in the immediate presence of said object, to the point that you are aware (usually) of its presence before getting killed. You must be in the car or its path to be injured by it. You must be in the pool to drown. But people have been killed by bullets fired a half-mile away (I'm not going to repost the link to that incident in Ferndale, WA, from last Father's Day weekend because I've posted it already many times in response to you; anyone who wants it can search for it based on the terms I just gave).

      Irrational fears? Perhaps. But where was this concern about the political consequences of irrational fears when all those people spooked by crime went out and bought guns? The NRA was happy to have all the new names and addresses to harvest from all the background-check forms (something that should be made opt-in only) to bolster its mailing list (I really wonder if the NRA secretly tries to keep violent crime rates at a certain minimum; people who aren't afraid of crime don't buy guns, after all). Should that cut the other way, should people in, say, Florida, become so afraid of being accidentally shot by their fellow patrons that they stop going to movie theaters or restaurants, which then start lobbying the legislature for some sort of fix, the gun lobby will not be able to call itself blameless.

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