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  •  Er... what? (2+ / 0-)
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    Protesters strapping explosives inside the armor of bus fire survivors?  Plenty of deaths-by-icepick-to-the-neck?  I can't find anything even remotely resembling these stories on the Russian net, which would be the place to have it if it were true, nor anyone making anything near those kinds of accusations.

    If there's "plenty of testimony from witnesses", you should be able to show us something.

    Saint, n. A dead sinner revised and edited. - Ambrose Bierce

    by pico on Sat Mar 01, 2014 at 07:33:53 PM PST

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    •  Why would you find? (0+ / 0-)

      It would ruin your preconceive notion, wouldn't it? If you can't find this, then you didn't try. It's discussed all over russian social media. True or false, we would never know. One side claims it on provocateurs, the other claims it to be true. Clear is one thing: showing "peaceful protesters" violence does not sell.  

      •  I'm putting in a good faith effort here (4+ / 0-)
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        And not finding anything.  What are you search terms?   Украина + взрывчатые вещества/взрывчатки? Er.... cтавят в броню же?  What social media sites are you reading?  ЖЖ? или что?

        Whatever it is, it's not even making the Russian news, and you know they'd be all over that if they had evidence like this.

        Saint, n. A dead sinner revised and edited. - Ambrose Bierce

        by pico on Sat Mar 01, 2014 at 08:28:42 PM PST

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        •  A lot on livejournal, it's a good start as any (0+ / 0-)

          On google, I've tried different search words: антимайдан, солдаты беркута, автобус солдатов беркута. And be careful, a lot of info are just rumors or actively pushed propaganda (from both places). But some of them have good video materials and and just by judging of the writing style you may deduce who's what. Sorry I can't help you more.

        •  dont even bother (0+ / 0-)

          He is here push Russian propaganda and demand sympathy for the poor Russians who enjoy invading other countries and racking up dead bodies.

      •  I have to run for a bit, but if you find me (1+ / 0-)
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        some sources, I'll read them when I get back.

        Saint, n. A dead sinner revised and edited. - Ambrose Bierce

        by pico on Sat Mar 01, 2014 at 08:38:05 PM PST

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