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  •  Oh, and nice with the ad hom (0+ / 0-)

    Speaks volumes about your debating abilities.

    Now it's your turn with the predictable "Well I call 'em as I see 'em and it's not my fault if you have bad judgement something something".

    And, of course, that I'm a "hater", therefore my judgement is clouded (not asking, of course, why I might "hate", even though I actually don't, just don't respect the man, given all that's happened).

    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

    Sorry, I don't grade my team on the curve. Everyone gets judged by the same standard. Political partisanship is complete and utter bullshit.

    "Reagan's dead, and he was a lousy president" -- Keith Olbermann 4/22/09

    by kovie on Sun Mar 02, 2014 at 08:50:23 AM PST

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    •  I think you have some issues to work out (5+ / 0-)

      No one called you a "hater". That's trash talk.

      You changed the subject form the Port Authority to Obama.
      I've notice you often do that in your postings.

      I believe Obama's presidency will be judged by his actions in full but the last time I looked his presidency wasn't over.

      He has been overall a good leader. Lots of stumbles but I expected that.

      I wouldn't be so quick to write his presidency off as the Republicans did from day one.

      •  Those issues being people often (0+ / 0-)

        reverting to calling people who criticize Obama "haters", duh. And while many of the stumbles were the unavoidable kind, some were not. Not prosecuting banks, BP and the like was no "stumble", but a deliberate move to protect his main backers or potential enemies, at the cost of the country's good.

        Wrt to some of this country's critical structural issues, Obama may well turn out to be another Buchanan, ducking them in order to avoid a real fight. The ACA, flawed but admirable though it's been, will not make up for that. And it too was done in a way that benefited the mighty.

        "Reagan's dead, and he was a lousy president" -- Keith Olbermann 4/22/09

        by kovie on Sun Mar 02, 2014 at 11:13:21 AM PST

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        •  Democracy's foundation rests upon compromise (1+ / 0-)
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          Obama has made some bad compromises. Some were necessary, others are questionable. ALL presidents do this.Ask George WH Bush. He compromised on raising taxes in order to avoid a crushing deficit that was the result of Reagan's economic policies. He did the right thing and lost his second run for office.

          Read history and understand that there are no perfect presidents. They all fail to some degree,even Lincoln.

          •  Typically meaningless response/justification (0+ / 0-)

            You just justified and explained away Bush II's entire presidency. Hey, stuff happens, compromises, mistakes were made...

            How was not prosecuting criminals who crashed the economy by committing financial crimes a "compromise"? Where do you folks get this nonsense?

            "Reagan's dead, and he was a lousy president" -- Keith Olbermann 4/22/09

            by kovie on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 01:31:08 PM PST

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          •  And please don't patronize people (0+ / 0-)

            if you want to be taken seriously. I majored in history. I'm not exactly ignorant about the imperfect choices presented to and made by rulers. But the "no one is perfect" argument is a class non-sequitor because it justifies EVERYTHING.

            Hey, Nixon wasn't perfect. Christie. Reagan. Mistakes were made!

            "Reagan's dead, and he was a lousy president" -- Keith Olbermann 4/22/09

            by kovie on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 01:33:45 PM PST

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            •  You are going to get very tired waiting for the (0+ / 0-)

              perfect president to come along.

              Bush's mistakes were clearly done because he lacked curiosity and good judgement. He wouldn't even listen to his  own father when it came to invading Iraq. He wasn't just imperfect, he was willful and arrogant. The worst president in our history.

              Debate is your strong point but reason is not.

      •  Also, yet more ad hom (0+ / 0-)

        with the bannable suggestions of mental issues. Nice. Plus the uprates.

        Again, I don't grade on the curve. "My" team gets zero points for being on "my" team.

        "Reagan's dead, and he was a lousy president" -- Keith Olbermann 4/22/09

        by kovie on Sun Mar 02, 2014 at 11:16:04 AM PST

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