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  •  Crimea (8+ / 0-)

    was only added to Ukraine in 1954, by the Ukrainian Krushchev, who some of us, such as myself, very much have in living memory.  Post-Kosovo, it's pretty hard to buy hypocritical western posturing about how Crimea is part of the "territorial integrity" of Ukraine by those exact same powers who actively tore Serbia apart.  Of course, our politicians and media insist on playing reprises of Cold War stereotypes and propaganda.  Which is so very, very helpful.

    When I was in the NSA, my training and activity was directed at the Soviet Union.  (Amazingly, somehow we survived back then without me or anyone in my units spying a single time on our fellow American citizens.)  I found that the people in the world Russians most resembled were ... Americans.

    "Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will." ~Frederick Douglass

    by ActivistGuy on Sun Mar 02, 2014 at 02:48:16 AM PST

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    •  Normalization with Russia prevented by NATO, (0+ / 0-)

      potentially obsolete if Kruschev and Kennedy had prevailed. Obama's cold war mentality ludicrous.

      •  Obama doesn't have a cold war mentality... (1+ / 0-)
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        ...which is why we are in trouble.  NATO is unprepared.  The Russians are still fighting the cold war.  We laid down our arms, and now Eastern Europe is under severe threat.


        by LordMike on Sun Mar 02, 2014 at 09:22:51 AM PST

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    •  I find it amusing that (2+ / 0-)
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      so many people who reject the Ukraine's SSR status within the USSR as Russian imperial domination accept Russia's 1954 gift of the Crimean ASSR to Ukraine.

      They rightly condemn Stalin's brutality towards Ukraine (famine from forced collectivization, the deportation of the Tatars and other nationalities from Crimea), which was enforced by Khrushchev. But they accept as legitimate Khrushchev's decision in 1954 to reward Ukraine for 300 years of subservience by giving it Crimea-- which had never been part of Ukraine in the past.

    •  Thanks (0+ / 0-)

      I stand corrected.

      "If Wall Street paid a tax on every “game” they run, we would get enough revenue to run the government on." ~ Will Rogers

      by Lefty Coaster on Sun Mar 02, 2014 at 03:03:46 PM PST

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