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  •  Pocatello used to be blue (3+ / 0-)
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    It still is more blue than the rest of SE Idaho, but that no longer says a lot.

    My grandparents were dyed in the wool, yellow dog Dems, proud Union members, and Democratic activists. My grandma spent a lot of time "politickin'" at the senior center there in her last days. She was feisty as could be and pretty hardcore about politics.

    My grandparents used to be the norm in that area. One of my uncles still lives there and is a Union leader, but has become a bit burned out by that role. When he first joined the union it was a no-brainer in Poky, but like a lot of other places it's increasingly difficult to keep one strong.

    After my grandma passed away I quit visiting that town as much as I could, although my mom and I are planning a trip there next month.

    Anyway, the thing that sucks about this (and in other larger cities in Idaho) is that the elected officials are not really representing their constituents on this issue. Most of that is because getting people to vote is like pulling teeth. Everyone that I know in Poky supports marriage equality, but only a handful of them vote. My aunt and uncle, and my friend's son who is there attending ISU. All  of my other "allies" stand on the sidelines, posting supportive messages on fb then feeling like they've done their duty.

    When I was in Boise I attended all of the "Add the Words" protests, but it wasn't as well coordinated then as it is now. It has gained a lot of momentum over the last few years thanks to the relentless efforts of its founders.

    Also, Maddie Beard's remembrance page is here.

    P.S. I am not a crackpot.

    by BoiseBlue on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 07:36:11 AM PST

    •  Thanks, Boise blue (2+ / 0-)
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      I agree that representative government has been hijacked in Poky. Thanks for talking about your experience with that and for sharing Maddie Beard's remembrance page. I hesitated to even bring that up in the blog because I didn't want to appear to use a painful situation in a way that anyone might find  hurtful, but in the end I decided it was relevant.

      Sadly there is a also a strong attitude in Poky that you need to be nice all the time to get along. This is the button Elaine Smith is trying to push. Horrendous statements are made by people with smiles on their faces, and when you speak up, you may be told you're making it bad for everyone. Like someone recently said to me, it's like an abusive family. There may be serious problems, but in some families just bringing them up will get you labeled as the problem, and the discussion ends there. The problem continues, and grows. I think we're seeing that at a community scale. Maddie's parents are loving and were supportive of her, and there are lots of loving and supportive kids and families in the community. But I wonder if you can say that for the kids who attacked her in the larger 'family' of the high school.

      Salt Lake reportedly has the largest population per capita of teenagers living on the street, and I've heard that it is usually because they are gay or perceived gay. There is lots of abuse and abandonment in some places in the region that is part of the political climate that has democratic politicians in SE Idaho complaining about inconvenience at the capital, instead of sounding the alarm about what could have been changed to prevent Maddie's death, and what has to change to protect others.

      As long as people don't bother to vote, it won't change. They have to vote and speak out about this or the bigotry will remain. They need to galvanize themselves with the realization that the battle is, for most intents and purposes, already lost on the right. They have to forget George Will telling them that they have to be good losers so the discrimination can continue a little longer, and maybe in some places they can make it continue a lot longer. No more bullying, no more deaths.

      •  Completely agree (2+ / 0-)
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        Sadly there is a also a strong attitude in Poky that you need to be nice all the time to get along.
        The paternal side of my family is Mormon, and this is a very oppressive attitude to be around. They disowned me for years, not out of spite but because it was just too unpleasant to think about. They have welcomed me back somewhat, but it's still so oppressive to be around them. Everyone is so smiley but it's so fake. Ugh.

        You're right about voting, but that's always the fight, isn't it? Convincing people that posting an equality pic online does not change anything. Voting does. Real world work does.

        P.S. I am not a crackpot.

        by BoiseBlue on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 09:06:10 AM PST

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      •  That smiley happy everything is wonderful (1+ / 0-)
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        attitude is soooo Mormon. I hate it. I see it on the local news all the time as reporters talk about how wonderful our community is -- it's the American exceptionalism idea in a microcosm. It reminds me of Barbara Bush's attitude after Katrina, talking about how she didn't want her beautiful mind polluted by the reality of the suffering after the hurricane. I think they believe that if everybody just lived like they did there would be no problems. I moved here in 1968 to go to ISU thinking it was a wonderfully liberal place, after growing up in Idaho Falls which seemed so conservative. Since IF is so much bigger now, I think there is much more diversity there, at least, and probably less conservative than Pocatello is.

        "We don't see things as they are, we see things as we are." Anais Nin

        by SuWho on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 11:57:25 AM PST

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