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  •  That is not a right to an audience... (0+ / 0-)

    That is only a right to gather and protest where the potential audience may exist.  The audience cannot be compelled to listen or otherwise engage with the protesters in any manner.

    It seems from the diary that this law establishes the right of the "targeted audience" to be free from any undesired engagement with the protesters and the freedom to pass unobstructed and unmolested through the protest group.

    I didn't see anything prohibiting protesters from protesting at medical clinics, it only requires that anyone passing through those protests may pass and have a right to their personal space to avoid engagement if they do not want to engage.

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    by Josiah Bartlett on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 09:18:49 AM PST

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    •  The law says that a person can't even attempt (0+ / 0-)

      to engage in interaction with someone entering a clinic.  I don't think it's fair to characterize it as "undesired engagement"—certainly some women DO engage with these people in a consensual way.  There's an amicus brief filed by patients of these facilities in the Supreme Court to that effect.  

      No one is arguing that people entering the clinic have to stop and listen to anyone.  The only question is whether the law can prevent a person from asking the patient to stop and chat.  That is, can it be a crime (punishable by prison time) to ask a person entering a clinic if they'd like to hear about alternatives?

      •  Engagement (0+ / 0-)
        The law says that a person can't even attempt
        to engage in interaction with someone entering a clinic.
        Not correct. (Not Madison anyway.)
        It states you can not attempt to engage in interaction should you be closer than 8 feet from the person. One may still hold out a pamphlet to the intended recipient and should the target be interested, they may approach (crossing the span of 8 feet or more) and retrieve said article.
      •  8 feet, again (1+ / 0-)
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        That is, can it be a crime (punishable by prison time) to ask a person entering a clinic if they'd like to hear about alternatives?
        Punishable by citation and only if they do so being closer than 8 feet to the person. Want to offer someone alternatives? Ask them from 8 feet away. Boom, you're safe.
        •  This will also take care of those annoying quiet (0+ / 0-)

          talkers who mumble and refuse to improve their volume or pronunciation despite your fifth "I'm sorry, what? I couldn't hear you." Good riddance.

          Is fheàrr fheuchainn na bhith san dùil

          by bull8807 on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 02:15:27 PM PST

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