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  •  The Pulsing Tip Jar (15+ / 0-)

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    by quarkstomper on Sun Mar 02, 2014 at 06:18:00 PM PST

    •  "I am an evil man, destined for Hell ..." (7+ / 0-)

      ... sez Elric, in reply to the young woman who beseeches his aid.

      Thanks for your good work. I wouldn't be adverse to reading summaries of the rest of Elric's novels, but how %$#@! many are there?

      Somebody knows in what order Moorcock wrote the first tales of Elric, maybe the info is even on Wikipedia. All I know is that they finally showed up in America in a pair of Lancer paperbacks circa 1967.
      Moorcock's "modern day" character Jerry Cornelius came to the States soon afterward, and I was appalled at how similar the plots were to one another -- so much so that I only read M.M. again when Brian W. Aldiss, a mutual friend and tireless correspondent, convinced me to take a chance almost 20 years later.

      My own suspension of disbelief in Elric's sub-world had been shattered years before -- cynically, I believed, but I was impressed by improvements in Moorcock's style, his bleak, black humor, and his doggedness in keeping both Elric's and Jerry's sagas in the public eye. Brian prefers "hard" S-F to Fantasy, and liked Jerry quite a bit more, although the two facts aren't necessarily related.

      There is a possibility that Moorcock started the two characters for separate audiences, but again, I have no knowledge.

      I suppose since he was later the protagonist of a sustained series of full novels, rather than short stories, one could say that Elric's tale began in medias res.

      I sure wish that Robert E. Howard would have given himself the same opportunity with Conan. He created a whole sub-genre without knowing what he'd done.

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      by MT Spaces on Sun Mar 02, 2014 at 08:08:50 PM PST

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      •  Reuse, Replot, Recycle (2+ / 0-)
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        Moorcock had a tendency to recycle a lot of his plots, probably coming from the period when he was cranking out fiction by the yard to feed the magazines he worked on and when he boasted that he could do a novel in three days.  To a certain extent he actually justified this with his theme of the Eternal Champion, an archetypal character who battled both Order and Chaos in many different incarnations in many different realities.

        There's an Elric story in one of the collections where he teams up with several of these fellow Champions,  They all find each other familiar, but can't figure out why.  I probably would have appreciated that story better, though, if I was more familiar with Moorcock's other works.

        Tracking down all the Elric stories is about as complicated as tracking down all the P.G. Wodehouse "Jeeves" stories, because there have been numerous conflicting editions under different titles.  Moorcock disliked the editing done on his short stories in the original compilations.  The DAW edition of Elric of Melniboné that I used for this series has a grumpy note at the beginning saying (in effect) "Don't read THAT version, read THIS one instead!"

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        by quarkstomper on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 02:29:05 PM PST

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        •  (Laughing) Grumpy is what Grumpy does ... (2+ / 0-)
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          Another acknowledgement of eternal champions and Robert E. Howard from Valley of the Worm:

          I WILL TELL YOU OF NIORD AND THE WORM. You have heard the tale before in many guises wherein the hero was named Tyr, or Perseus, or Siegfried, or Beowulf, or St George. But it was Niord who met the loathly demoniac thing that crawled hideously up from hell, and from which meeting sprang the cycle of hero-tales that revolves down the ages until the very substance of the truth is lost and passes into the limbo of all forgotten legends. I know whereof I speak, for I was Niord ...

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          by MT Spaces on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 03:37:08 PM PST

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