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  •  Diary rate shouldn't be time based (4.00)
    You're on the right track, IMHO, but the duration of someone's membership should not determine the rate at which they can post diaries.

    What I would support, on the other hand, would be a scoring system that factored in:

    • participation level (# of comments)
    • weighted average of ratings for posted comments
    • number of recommends for diaries posted

    Like the invisible score used to gauge TU status, this could be calculated as a running average over a period of time.  I like my scheme because it indexes the rate at which one can post diaries to level of contribution to the community AND the response of the community to your participation.


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    by AlphaGeek on Wed Jul 06, 2005 at 12:07:25 PM PDT

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    •  I agree. (none)
      I agree.  Some diarists have time enough to post several or more well-researched, well-constructed and well-documented posts per week; their constributions should be encouraged, not penalized.

      When we outlaw free speech, only outlaws will speak freely. - DaveOinSF

      by Bob Love on Wed Jul 06, 2005 at 12:51:41 PM PDT

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    •  the problem of the commons (4.00)
      i agree with the main point of your suggestion.  using a weighted average of participation quality akin to the TU formula seems like a more complicated way to assign diary privileges, but ultimately I think it would be the fairest way to do it.  that way multiple diary privileges could be restricted to people who have already shown that they have something to say and know how to say it.  is it elitist to want dKos to be more of a meritocracy?

      I also remain concerned about what happens when big stories break and rpugs come over here to start talking trash.  it doesn't make sense in a serious forum that someone should be able to show up last week and immediately start bouncing well-reasoned commentary down the recent diaries list twice a day without offering any original writing or analysis.

      two diaries a day probably seemed reasonable back in the old days when there were fewer than 10,000 registrants and 100 comments was a long thread.
      now that seems ridiculously generous given the vastly increased membership.

      People don't value what is available to everyone and policed by no one.  All those who have never studied "the problem of the commons" can go do so and come back when you know what I am talking about.  This community worked very differently as a self-regulated place when there were one fifth as many people on the site and most of the regulars were personally invested in maintaining a certain level of quality.  Now there are people with no sense of investment in the community other than "I want what I want when I want it regardless of what rules were established by the community before I got here."  That is annoying.  So there is a flood of people throwing trash on the commons, and having the nerve to complain that others are trying to clean things up.  Hey!  Why are you picking up that trash?  Who are you to tell me I can't dump my stuff here?  Who made you the trash police?

      rant over.  few people will be reading this far down anyway.  i just wish there were a way to acknowledge the jump in population in a sensible way.  i don't think it's asking too much to expect new people to demonstrate a little loyalty, and put in a little time, so that they will be less likely to casually flout the community norms that helped made this site such a serious player on the political scene.

      Politics is like driving. To go backward, put it in R. To go forward, put it in D.

      by TrueBlueMajority on Wed Jul 06, 2005 at 01:45:27 PM PDT

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