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  •  I think it mostly is race. (15+ / 0-)

    The rage is race.  How dare a black man be president.   Sure, many don't like liberals, but Obama is more of a centrist anyway.  Even so, the hate (and chicken and watermelon emails) reveal what is going on.

    Many Americans are racists.  

    In fact, if one steps back, how could they not be.  Many grew up with end of segregation, but attitudes did not disappear overnight.  And one political party has spent billions over decades to demonize AAs in order to obtain racist voters.  Now a black guy is president.  Many of these people believe that AAs are inferior because of their skin color.  And now "one of them" is president.  Hence rage.  

    It's the rage.  That ain't Clinton-type rage.  That is the rage of the lynch mob.  

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    by TomP on Tue Mar 04, 2014 at 09:55:56 AM PST

    •  It's Not Mostly Race. We Can Watch Their Msging (2+ / 0-)
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      against Hillary Clinton right now as a Black man remains Commander-in-chief, even if we'll decline to study their responses to Carter, Bill Clinton and the last 2 failed Dem challengers. The specifics differ; the vitriol is quite similar.

      We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

      by Gooserock on Tue Mar 04, 2014 at 10:18:18 AM PST

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      •  Asterisk: It's Not "Mostly" On the Part of Leader- (6+ / 0-)

        ship. It clearly is for many of the rank in file.

        We've not yet had an elected official say that Obama shouldn't visit military bases because of our inability to protect the Commander in Chief in such places, as was said about President Clinton.

        We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

        by Gooserock on Tue Mar 04, 2014 at 10:19:39 AM PST

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      •  We disagree. (4+ / 0-)
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        There is a difference in  kind in the hatred.  

        This is not the same as Carter or Clinton.  

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        by TomP on Tue Mar 04, 2014 at 10:28:07 AM PST

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      •  Although I do agree that sexism (3+ / 0-)
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        drives some hatred of Hillary Clinton.

        It seems so obvious to me that race drives the rage.  Twp people of good faith can look at the same events and see different things.  We will have to agree to disagree.

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        by TomP on Tue Mar 04, 2014 at 10:30:19 AM PST

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      •  Racism, sexism . . . . (1+ / 0-)
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        Onomastic

        Bigotry is as bigotry does.

      •  OK, so much of it is about race... (1+ / 0-)
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        much is about sexism as well.  Some is about diversity.  My perception is that there is more than 100% hatred from the right to divvy up.  

        I'm from the Elizabeth Warren wing of the Democratic Party

        by voicemail on Tue Mar 04, 2014 at 01:44:54 PM PST

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      •  Goose, women are the new Other. (1+ / 0-)
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        Being black is awful. Being a woman is next-to-awful, because, well, emotions. And PMS. And they're, er ... soft. Or if they're hard, they're too shrill. Even aggressive! And they get Vapors.

        Can't be taken seriously, is the bottom line.

        Yes, it's that AA's and women and God-forbid, Hispanics, are liberals, too. But the Far and Farther Right needs many things to be wrong with The Other, so pile it on.

        2014 is HERE. Build up the Senate. Win back the House : 17 seats. Plus!

        by TRPChicago on Tue Mar 04, 2014 at 04:13:36 PM PST

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      •  What they really hate is policies (0+ / 0-)

        that (in their view) unfairly benefit minorities and the poor, to the detriment of middle class white people (because in this view disadvantage is just a myth and nobody needs assistance, or least not the kinds that the Tea Party cohort isn't getting). The attack on the social safety net is a core part of their message.

        It's extra galling when policies that address poverty, inequality and racial bias are implemented by a Black president, but they hate the policies in any case, and they hate also being called out for what they are: self-centered, racist, and dupes of the class that is funding and organizing them.

    •  It doesn't have to be Either/Or (3+ / 0-)
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      it can be more than a bunch of both, in fact, it probably is both.  I just notice that conservatives manage to find their Inner Not-Asshole, when dealing with a Black, or Female, or Asian, or Gay (or all the above) Fellow Conservative.

    •  It is indeed the "rage of the lynch mob." (1+ / 0-)
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      It is a rage we've seen before in American history - in the burning of Tulsa, Oklahoma's "Black Wall Street."

      It's a rage based on envy and hatred of African American success, a success that repudiates the lie of whiteness as a necessary attribute of excellence.

      That rage and envy ravaged thriving African American communities across American in Atlanta, Chicago, Rosewood, Florida; Washington,DC; Knoxville, TN; New York City, and East St. Louis.

      And now it is a rage and envy directed at an African American President whose very existence disproves the "white is right" mythos.

      It is absolutely racist to the core and just as dangerous as it was in the 18th, 19th, and 20th centuries.

      There is something in us that refuses to be regarded as less than human. We are created for freedom - Archbishop Desmond Tutu

      by Onomastic on Tue Mar 04, 2014 at 04:17:44 PM PST

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