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  •  So you hate the free market? (9+ / 0-)

    I can't tell by taste what products are low in sodium either, but thanks to labeling, I can work to keep my sodium intake down.

    Ingredients lists are not simply to provide info on 'dangerous' things.  If that were the case, the ONLY ingredients required to be listed would be those to which allergies exist.  There is no 'legitimate health effect' to whether or not okra is in a product, but I get to know, thanks to labeling laws.

    If I were to believe your argument, there would be no Kosher' labeling, no 'vegan' or 'vegetarian' labeling - none of those are labeled because of 'health concerns'.  They're labeled because people want them.  Are you saying that providing those labels is simply a way to 'punish' the corporations whose products aren't Kosher, aren't vegan, aren't vegetarian?

    And your comparison to 'a rabbit being within 5 miles' to an actual ingredient in a product is completely ludicrous.

    •  yep, i find much of the reaction to GMOs to (2+ / 0-)
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      Penny GC, FG

      Be completely irrational but we are a consumer society and in such a society surely consumers have the right to information about what they are buying.

      •  I might have written them off as irrational (11+ / 0-)

        if I hadn't spent so much time actually in scientific fields, and learned just how complex biological systems are, and how little we actually understand how they work yet.  There are tests yet to evolve, to detect things we don't even know to look for yet, in determining just why all sorts of diseases and conditions occur.

        So I don't write anything down simply as 'safe'.  'Safe within the boundaries of tests we have performed', and 'given our understanding at the moment', yes.  But until we actually understand why every drug we use works, why every disease or condition occurs, I don't make blanket 'safety' statements about anything.

        We used to think it was 'safe' to x-ray people's feet in shoe stores.  We used to think it was 'safe' to have lead in paint we used on houses and toys, in our gasoline.

        The whole of human progress is basically finding out that we didn't fully understand the consequences of things we use until years, decades, or centuries later.

    •  Again.. (0+ / 0-)

      Sodium has measurable impacts on health, and yes, you can taste it.

      And yes, I do hate the free market, but you're actually arguing against a free market by imposing regulations where they shouldn't be. If there were a legitimate industry involved here, then they would provide the labels themselves: "Proud non-GMO food!" I actually see it all the time. I even tried a box of macaroni with the label on it. Didn't taste any different.

      As for Kosher, that's based on religion - something completely different. Or are you going to start an organic farming religion?

      Om, mani padme, Monsanto sucks, om.

      TX-17 (Bill Flores-R), TX Sen-14 (Kirk Watson-D), TX HD-50 (Celia Israel-D)

      by Le Champignon on Tue Mar 04, 2014 at 10:41:47 AM PST

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    •  But Kosher, vegan, and vegetarian labeling (1+ / 0-)
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      mikidee

      aren't mandated by the federal government.  

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