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  •  If the Palestinians adopted non-violence as (1+ / 0-)
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    their North Star, it would be very difficult to keep them from gaining their freedom.

    But so long as there is Hamas, I suspect the status quo will continue.

    •  Nonsense, Israel just arrests them (5+ / 0-)

      and harasses them and then blames Hamas for everything.

      There are very large non-violent groups in Palestine and their leaders are arrested and jailed. The fact that there are also violent groups doesn't negate the existence of non-violent groups. Just like the existence of violence groups during the civil rights era and the Indian fight for independence didn't negate the non-violence of Gandhi and MLK respectively.

      If knowledge is power and power corrupts, does that mean that knowledge corrupts?

      by AoT on Wed Mar 05, 2014 at 09:38:27 AM PST

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      •  See also the ANC, which turned to sabotage (1+ / 0-)
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        after the Sharpeville massacre of unarmed protesters, and then to violence when all of the previous leadership was in prison or exile. de Klerk freed Mandela and negotiated with him anyway.

        As Yitzhak Rabin explained,

        You negotiate with your enemies, not with your friends.

        Back off, man. I'm a logician.—GOPBusters™

        by Mokurai on Wed Mar 05, 2014 at 10:28:59 PM PST

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