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  •  Because that's not a state (2+ / 0-)
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    stargaze, callmecassandra

    It's a protectorate of Israel. And why doesn't Israel just stop killing Palestinians?

    Why is it on Palestinians to unconditionally surrender and give in to Israel's ethnic cleansing?

    If knowledge is power and power corrupts, does that mean that knowledge corrupts?

    by AoT on Thu Mar 06, 2014 at 10:26:39 AM PST

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    •  I don't understand (1+ / 0-)
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      Japan does not have an army (or at least did not for most of its history after WW2), but it's still a state.

      Why wouldn't the State of Palestine be a state without an army?

      What makes it a "surrender"?  Don't the Palestinians get significant tangible benefits from this deal?

      What part of Kerry's plan involve's "ethnic cleansing"?  Do you have a link for that?

      Thanks!

      •  I found this article has both Kerry & Lieberman in (0+ / 0-)

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        Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman said Sunday he would not support any peace agreement that does not include the exchange of Israeli Arab land and population, calling that demand a "basic condition" that he has already clarified to the international community.

        "When I talk about land and population exchange, I mean the Little Triangle and Wadi Ara," Lieberman said, referring to the predominantly Arab regions in central and northern Israel. "This is not a transfer. Nobody will be expelled or banished, but the border will move to the other side of Route 6."

        "I will not support any peace deal that will allow the return of even one Palestinian refugee to Israel," he said. "Because if we leave the right of return on the table, all pressure will be on this subject."

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        My impression is that Israel is using a lot of USA taxpayer money (including mine) to prevent any future Palestinian state from being viable. I found the Lieberman quote disgusting and racial.

        The boss needs you, you don't need him. -- France general strike, May 1968

        by stargaze on Thu Mar 06, 2014 at 12:13:18 PM PST

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      •  Japan unconditionally surrendered to the US (2+ / 0-)
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        Because we dropped two nuclear weapons and then we completely reworked their political system. I don't know that that is a good example for Israel and Palestine.

        What part of Kerry's plan involve's "ethnic cleansing"?
        That wouldn't be Kerry's plan, it would be the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians from what is now Israel. Which is why the right of return is an issue, because ethnic cleansing. Every time Israel expands its borders with more settlements it's ethnic cleansing. The whole state requires a continuation of all of that ethnic cleansing to continue as a Jewish state.

        If knowledge is power and power corrupts, does that mean that knowledge corrupts?

        by AoT on Thu Mar 06, 2014 at 12:22:33 PM PST

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