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  •  A house hearing (1+ / 0-)
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    mwm341

    is hardly a criminal court. And if she is innocent she will get her fair gearing from the DEM side. I am sorry to hear of your ordeal. My wife had a similar experience at a deposition several years ago (damn lawyers).

    She could possibly be innocent but the circumstantial evidence in this case, as well as her refusal to testify says no.

    •  The episode between Cummnings (8+ / 0-)

      and Issa makes me seriously doubt that

      if she is innocent she will get her fair hearing from the DEM side.

      liberal bias = failure to validate or sufficiently flatter the conservative narrative on any given subject

      by RockyMtnLib on Wed Mar 05, 2014 at 10:33:58 AM PST

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      •  Both sides get their turn (0+ / 0-)

        Cummings was cut off technically (ostensibly) because the opening statement had already been read the last time she was there.

        •  No, they do not. See the diary to which you are (6+ / 0-)

          commenting. Rep. Cummings' microphone was cut off. You are, quite simply, wrong. The fact that you can say this "both sides get their turn" here, in this diary, proves that you are not operating in the same reality as the committee. Why are you accusing a proven honest bureaucrat (not a dirty word) and defending a blatantly dishonest GOP politician?

          •  nope (0+ / 0-)

            You are wrong. Sorry. Get up to speed. The chair can cut off an unannounced statement from the floor, but not an opening rebuttal form the minority. Cummings had already given that statement when Lerner appeared previously and pled the 5th. It was jerk move by issa, but technically OK. IF she agrees to questions both sides will  get their turn. It's law. Not rocket surgery.

          •  Are you saying Lerner (0+ / 0-)

            had been proven honest? Far from it. She has repeatedly made false and misleading statements regarding the issue. Which I would assume influenced her decisions not to testify.

            •  Mister T (0+ / 0-)

              Actually, no, the facts do not support your claims.  Issa is simply carrying on this silly investigation after almost everyone else has lost interest.  Lost interest because there's nothing at all for the republicans in it.

              •  Nope (0+ / 0-)

                The facts indeed do support what I say. perhaps you could provide some to back up your claim?

                If there isn't anything there then why is Lerner refusing to testify? Wy did she "retire"? Many more questions persist.

                •  Facts (0+ / 0-)

                  Perhaps you could back up your claim?  Even Issa doesn't have any facts in his corner because there aren't any.  However, that doesn't stop Issa, and he has done this kind of thing before and come up totally empty.  He is a fool.  A very malicious one though.

                  Lerner is not testifying in the Issa star chamber because it is rigged against her.  She has already, though, provided him with all her communications.  If you want an honest investigation into whatever happened with the IRS, you have to go elsewhere than Issa's alternate universe.

                  By the way, did you realize that there were several left-leaning organizations that got the same kind of scrutiny that the right-leaning ones did?  And that the only orgs that lost their tax-exempt status were a couple of lefty ones?

                  You probably didn't know that.  Google it; you'll find the facts there.  But you will never find them with Issa.

                  •  You are wrong (0+ / 0-)

                    1) i DID back up my claim did you even check the inks I provided?

                    2) Look,  Issa ay be a fool and jerk, but this IS a scandal.

                    3) Rigged? All she has to do is tell the truth. Period. End of story. That's all.

                    4) the left orgs were NOT treated to the same scrutiny as the right orgs. (so you obviously did NOT read my previous inks, nice... sheesh. Your mind already made up?)

                    See here

                    here

                    Every single RW app was investigated AND promoted to higher levels. The 7 progressive apps were certified at the initial review. No comparison.

                    •  Links (0+ / 0-)

                      No the links don't work on my computer. Don't know why.  But the facts remain that the irs looked at lots of orgs, including many left leaning ones. Two of those were stripped of their status.

                      In addition, Issa has received every single email and other communications from and to Lerner.  He has everything he needs and if he had a case he would have made it by now.  He simply doesn't have a case and all the wishful thinking from righties won't change that.  

                      •  Those are not facts (0+ / 0-)

                        those are what you ant to believe. They looked at 30% of the left leaning orbs and the front line examiners passed all but two quickly.

                        Every single conservative application was flagged and sent for further review for two years. Those are facts.

                        My understanding is they were nor provided with scores of documents they requested, nor Lerner's private emails where she violated the law by conducting formal business.

                        I think the unanswered questions certainly provide a case.

                        BTW the 2nd link works just fine. Look here where I have several links that raise questions and point out discrepancies and myths.  Try again for some facts.

    •  Then, this needs to go to the courts. (2+ / 0-)
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      mwm341, JJ In Illinois

      This Congress isn't about to change this law or any other.  So your only recourse, if you think the IRS is acting unconstitutionally, is to take them to court.

      Proceed, please.

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