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  •  Remember "HUAC" ... ? (2+ / 0-)
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    The House UnAmerican Activities Committee ?

    See:  McCarthyism didn't die when McCarthy left the Senate ... the House carried on in the same vein for another dozen years ... issuing subpenas, ruining lives.

    Point:  a LOT of innocent people "took the Fifth" ... and people like Nixon, Walters and McCarren tried to make it an article of faith that their so doing proved that they must have been guilty of SOMETHING.

    Now, McCarthy Walters and McCarren have been dead for some time -- and yet it seems "the legacy lingers."


    •  I'd say that is comparing (0+ / 0-)

      apples and motorcycles.

      •  Why bless your heart ... of course you would. (0+ / 0-)

        But when you compare the transcripts

        It's pretty much the same routine ...

        La plus ca change, eh ?

        •  Nope (0+ / 0-)

          I am all for the sacredness of the Fifth Amendment, and its rationale that we cannot be compelled to incriminate ourselves.  

          However don’t you think government officials owe it to the public to explain what is going on, or has gone on, in government? Don’t you think government officials, and former government officials, owe us transparency when the public is harmed by their actions of inactions? If those actions are unintentional or accidental great.

          This is hardly an example of McCarthyism. And it cheapens the definition to imply that it does.

          •  You seem awfully invested in Rep. Issa's (0+ / 0-)


            Why ?

            Ben Gazzi ?

            •  Nope (0+ / 0-)

              I'm just not an ideologue or blind partisan. The IRS issue has many unanswered questions and stonewalling. I'll ask again:

              "Don’t you think government officials, and former government officials, owe us transparency when the public is harmed by their actions or inactions?"

              I do, and I do not care what party it is.

              •  Question for question .... (0+ / 0-)

                Don't you think "asked and answered" applies here ... ?

                Or do you think ever middle manager and office-helper in the IRS should be paraded before The Committee to Answer Questions and Name Names ?

                I don't presume to think you are "partisan" ...

                But I do notice you are obsessed.  And not about the IRS's dealings in general ... but with the IRS's purported excessive attention to organizations with "Tea Party" or "Liberty" in their names.

                So ... is this a matter of personal self assertion -- or do you get paid by the word?

                And if paid ... are you paid for the keystrokes YOU enter, or is are you rewarded for the volume of Reply you can generate.

                •  Look pal (0+ / 0-)

                  I am not paid by anyone to comment here- check my record- and I resent that accusation. So you can take a hike on that silly notion.

                  As tour your first part. I do not know what you mean by "Don't you think "asked and answered" applies here ... ?"

                  I try not to be ode logical and blind in my philosophical and beliefs. And I am not obsessed but rather alarmed that most people here do not think the IRS targeting (and it is purported- it did occur) of political groups is anything to worry about (and kneed it may not be- but we do not know) because it happened to "them". Remember cycles come and go, things change. The gop will have the WH again one day.

                •  PS (0+ / 0-)

                  You didn't answer my question, again. Do you get paid to obfuscate?

                  •  No I'm not being paid .. It's a slow workday (0+ / 0-)

                    No work  ... no pay.

                    I could do crosswords
                    Or I could play "Sparkle II"

                    Or I can exchange posts with you.

                    Still:   The thing I find fascinating:  

                    Why on Earth are you DOING  This ?

                    You're not persuading anyone of anything.

                    The feedback you've been getting ranges from disagreement at best to open disrespect.

                    You're not being admired for your ... what? ... Courage? Integrity?  Individuality ?

                    Yet you will keep going and going and going for post -- . as long as someone will engage with you.

                    Why would anyone put themselves through that UNLESS they were being paid ?  Or hoping to be so on some other occasion -- "Unpaid Intern Promotion Fantasy "?

                    Yet we both know:  people DO get paid for this kind of thing.  And we both know that those who are paid, will always swear and declare that they are not.

                    So, I've always been curious:  are they paid for posting, or paid for getting other to reply.

                    If I were supervising an online propaganda  project ... I'd pay the independent contractors  for  for their "result" only -- replies

                    That seems to be the businesslike way of going about it.

                    And  "Liber-T.E.A." is all about Business, isn't it ?

                    •  Well I suppose you had better (0+ / 0-)

                      go back to playing games, seems that is all you're capable of. Now it is three times you've avoided question.

                      I just make a single comment whenever a diarist claims "this isn't a scandal", to remind them of the facts at this point which argue that yes, it is a scandal. Usually, as with you, are there no counterfactual arguments.

                      Have fun!


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