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  •  No. You're subdividing her for no reason (3+ / 0-)
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    She's Hillary Clinton, SOS, wife of the 42nd president.  

    If you did a similar poll of Warren, the second spot would probably be "Worked for Obama."  Should that count against her?  I doubt she would have won in Massachusetts without having done that work first; look how close it was with her experience.

    "Harass us, because we really do pay attention. Look at who's on the ballot, and vote for the candidate you agree with the most. The next time, you get better choices." - Barney Frank

    by anonevent on Wed Mar 05, 2014 at 10:01:39 AM PST

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    •  Even if Subterranean is subdividing (1+ / 0-)
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      How many voters do you think will make the same conclusions?

      "It's not surveillance, it's data collection to keep you safe"

      by blackhand on Wed Mar 05, 2014 at 10:37:31 AM PST

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    •  How do you conflate (0+ / 0-)

      working in a presidential administration with being married to a president?  That's like comparing a resident under a chief brain surgeon to the brain surgeon's wife.  It makes no sense.

      Or are you suggesting Warren won her position in the Obama administration by having an affair with Obama?  That's rather sexist, no?  Well that's exactly how many people view HRC's record, and what makes her a poor choice as the woman to break the final glass ceiling.

      "When I was an alien, cultures weren't opinions" ~ Kurt Cobain, Territorial Pissings

      by Subterranean on Wed Mar 05, 2014 at 10:39:34 AM PST

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      •  That's how very few view her record. (0+ / 0-)

        I'd expect it from the GOP knuckledraggers, but to see it being advanced by a supposed progressive is remarkable.

        Perhaps you can go on the O'Reilly Factor and bond with Bill over the downsides of a female president.  

        •  So what if Warren was the frontrunner, (0+ / 0-)

          and somebody said, "no, I support Hillary because Bill Clinton".  

          Would that strike you as a little odd?  

          If HRC goes on to become president, historians will note that the first female president had to have an former two-term president as a husband.  It will be a big fucking deal.  Dissertations will be written analysing why Americans couldn't accept a woman on her own, without a strong husband.

          "When I was an alien, cultures weren't opinions" ~ Kurt Cobain, Territorial Pissings

          by Subterranean on Wed Mar 05, 2014 at 01:24:30 PM PST

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          •  Yeah, she'll be remembered as the first one. (0+ / 0-)

            And it won't be minimized by historians because being the first female president of the United States will be a big deal.

            Sure, there will be dissertations written on how women have limited access to power.  They've actually already been written, including analysis on how many women only reached office because their husband was an office holder and died.

            It's a long list of disqualifiers for people who don't want to see women in power.  While you're busy adding to it and claiming it's because you're what, a feminist?  You don't want to see the woman who hasn't really earned it get it and we should instead wait for a real female role model?  

            Most admired woman in America for more than two decades isn't good enough for you?  All those women who want to vote for her must be so misguided.  Let's hope someone can save them from themselves, like the woman who you want instead...who wants Hillary.

            She'd be the perfect president if she could just realize that what she wants is wrong and we know better than her.  Good luck with that.

            •  For me, HRC's disqualification (0+ / 0-)

              is simply that she's not the best person for the job.  

              "When I was an alien, cultures weren't opinions" ~ Kurt Cobain, Territorial Pissings

              by Subterranean on Wed Mar 05, 2014 at 04:34:02 PM PST

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