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  •  Honestly? (1+ / 0-)
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    Maerzie

    I don't know.  I try to get inside their heads but just can't. Look at their governor.  If anybody has any idea how these people think, please, enlighten us---or would you have to endarken us?

    •  Afterthought (8+ / 0-)

      How about we all send him an empty brown sandwich bag to show him how much we love him?

      Rep Paul Ryan
      1233 Longworth House Office Bldg
      Washington, DC 20515

      Add a snarky note so he won't think we actually DO love him. He just might be too thick to understand the sarcasm.

      I live in Hawai'i, and I don't think many people read my comments because I'm writing when you've all read your Daily Kos hours ago.  Not that I expect sympathy!!!!

        •  Mahalo! (0+ / 0-)

          Wow!  Somebody DOES read my stuff. From the time stamp, looks like you're on the West Coast. That explains it---only two hours' difference until this weekend.
          Gotta go look for a brown paper bag!  Think they'll get past his mail censors?
          Aloha,

      •  I read your comment (1+ / 0-)
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        Maerzie

        and I loved your observation that Paul might be too thick to understand sarcasm -- that was spot on!

      •  I like this! (0+ / 0-)

        Shall I send him a long wine paper bag and apologize for not having the right size?  Or shall I tell him it's longer so it can hold more love?

      •  What a terrific, creative, inspired idea! (1+ / 0-)
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        ValkyrieValjean

        Except I think you meant an empty brown paper lunch bag (I don't know if they make paper sandwich bags). I'm pretty sure the weight would come in under an ounce, so a standard stamp ought to do it. And you don't even need a separate note, just write it right on the paper bag in bold marker. Something like "No Love, No Compassion" should convey the message just fine. But even without anything written, I think Rep. Ryan will still receive the symbolic message loud and clear.

        By the way, I don't live in Hawaii, but I often don't get to these diaries until later, either, so I can empathize. It seems the ability to recommend comments is fairly short-lived, which sometimes can prevent one from recommending deserving comments. It's great they have groups, and tags for the diaries here, but it still seems like the structure here favors the same superficial short news cycle we're exposed to in the mainstream media (which it feeds off of).

        Anyhow, although realizing us latecomers usually have a small or non-existent audience for our comments, which diminishes our voice here to an extent, there seems little that can be done to change that. Perhaps a bit more time to uprate might ameliorate that somewhat.

        Time to go now--I'm off to prepare my brown paper lunch bag for mailing. I'd make it a stinky one, but that wouldn't be fair to the postal service employees or other workers who might have to come in contact with it. Thanks again for the idea!

      •  Brilliant! (1+ / 0-)
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        wilywascal

        Love this idea.

      •  Koch Bros Send Their Bag (0+ / 0-)

        It's full of Thousand dollar bills. That's his kind of love.

      •  FANTASTIC IDEA!!! I'M GOING TO START DOING THIS!! (0+ / 0-)

         I'M GOING TO GET SOME SANDWICH BAGS AND DO THIS!!  IT'S A GREAT IDEA!  I'M FROM WISCONSIN BUT I DIDN'T VOTE FOR HIM OR HIS BUDDY SCOTT WALKER!!  I DON'T KNOW HOW HE GETS ELECTED, BUT THE WAY HE IS ACTING, I SUSPECT THERE WILL BE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WILL STOP VOTING FOR HIM AND OTHER REPUBLICANS!!  ARE THEY ALL THIS STUPID OR WERE THEY BORN WITH A SILVER SPOON IN THEIR MOUTH AND DIDN'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH POVERTY, BUT OF COURSE ALL THOSE IN POVERTY HAVE TO DO, IS GET A JOB!!  THERE'S PLENTY OF JOBS OUT THERE, NOT THAT THEY WOULD HAVE THE EDUCATION TO GET ANY OF THEM. THE POLITICAL ADS BASHING MARY BURKE, HAVE STARTED AND WE'LL HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT UNTIL THE ELECTION, BUT AT LEAST I HAVE A REMOTE AND A MUTE BUTTON!!

      •  Why? (2+ / 0-)
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        1949girl, Angry old lady

        Not only the rich right wing, but our middle class, and the even the media marketed to liberals, agree with Ryan.  We know that not everyone can work, and that there aren't jobs for all who urgently need one. The US shipped out a huge number of jobs since the 1980s, ended actual welfare aid in the 1990s, and told the poor to disappear. When was the last time you heard a progressive call for basic humanitarian aid -- food and shelter -- for our very poor?

        •  For the religious rite (2+ / 0-)
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          DSicarii, Angry old lady

          There is a promise in Psalms (old testament) stating that if people had regard (mercy, actively helping) for the poor, their enemies would never over take them.  
          Looks like the right wingers only have regard for themselves and their rich providers. We surely don't need their kind of concern for the protection of the US of A, they have missed the point completely.
          As for Paul Ryan, wow, I'll be happy to send him a sandwich zip lock bag, (empty) with a note to add his own ketchup. After all it was St. Ronnie the Reagan who said that "the children who attended Head Start didn't need tomatoes on their hamburgers, ketchup is just as good". We really have some people with high moral standards trying to get the chance to lead us.....most likely to war. Best they not starve all the poor after all they will need soldiers for their future wars. To sum it up: dumb the students down, with common core, starve those who have poor families, give them a job when they finish their education, that means just  send them off to war....they are dispensable.
          What is the worst part of all this is that there are so many "have not's", who support these moral morons.

      •  Paul Ryan and poverty (0+ / 0-)

        Brilliant idea and I might just do that..I have to think up something really clever..Hope he will understand because he seems a bit THICK and out of touch!

      •  Thanks! (0+ / 0-)

        I have a lot of brown lunch bags.  I'm going to do this!  I'm also going to post this on Facebook.  

      •  Another thought. . . (0+ / 0-)

        Just write this on the empty brown lunchbag:

        MATTHEW 25:31-46

        Gives the message RESOUNDINGLY!

    •  From WI (2+ / 0-)
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      okpkpkp, Sky Captain

      We have the same problems  many of the other states with ridiculous reps are having.
      Faux news.
      Redistricting.
      Citizens United.
      Lies, Lies, Lies
      Too much Koch money going for advertising and bribes.
      NRA propaganda convincing too many low info / one issue voters that Democrats are coming to take our guns. Many of them don't necessarily vote for Repubs. they vote against the "gun grabbing" Dems.

      We have tried & are still trying to turn WI back to blue. It is a battle when a Dem can't get an ad in edgewise with the Koch machine buying up so much air time and filling it with lies. We have had months of constant Koch funded political ads.

      A gov't report comes out with real not so favorable, job, new business growth numbers and projections and before the ink is dry, Walker & the Koch machine comes out with their own "facts and numbers".  

      It is a real problem but we will keep fighting.

      •  Who? Where? (1+ / 0-)
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        Angry old lady

        We have a few DINOs, who have consistently protected the right wing agenda for decades, since the Thompson reign. More importantly, the people of WI took a hard right turn years ago. Old Joe McCarthy represents the spirit of Wisconsin today. As poverty has soared, Democrats and liberals have only more deeply alienated the masses who would have otherwise voted Dem -- the poor, and those who get why unrelieved poverty is sinking the country.

    •  Republicans (0+ / 0-)

      Vote them out!!!!

    •  DDE - note 'from other areas." They are STUPID (0+ / 0-)

      “Should any political party attempt to abolish social security unemployment insurance and eliminate labor laws and farm programs you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group of course that believes you can do these things. Among them are a few other Texas oil millionaires and an occasional politician or business man from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid.”
      ― Dwight D. Eisenhower

      •  Dirty little secret (1+ / 0-)
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        rkief

        Social Security provides retirement, disability and survivors' benefits, and several weeks of unemployment benefits. In whole, Social Security is collectively-funded, and does not only provides benefits for workers. Elderly widows who were never in the workplace -- my own mother included, a full-time mom -- are able to survive because of Social Security.

        Interestingly, it has been the Democrats since Bill Clinton who have been targeting Social Security, starting with the disabled. As a result of Bill Clinton's cuts, in fact, the disabled became the fastest-growing group of homeless people by 2000.  Benefits weren't restored until Obama became president. Then, the Clinton wing promptly resumed targeting the disabled. They are currently considering, or have already agreed to, new cuts that are twice as deep as the ones made by Clinton. Presumably, their goal is to "reform" Social Security the way they "reformed" our former welfare programs -- one cut, one program, at a time.

        •  How about some links (3+ / 0-)
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          heavenlyvalvkc, DSicarii, pecosa2

          I'd like to read more about this but from non partisan (right or left) sites.

        •  Actually, it was (0+ / 0-)

          Bill Clinton and his Contract With America Republicans who brokered that deal He alienated all of the democrats and most of the independents!
               During the Bush Administration, Hillary eased bankruptcy for wealthy businesses and forced a means test on the poor! The wealthy can still repeatedly file bankruptcy! She was opposed by a senator from Chicago Illinois! His name...? Anyway, he mentioned it during his campaign for president! She got plenty upset! That is one of the reasons I am praying Bernie Sanders runs! Never doubt the driving force of the AARP/ 40+ generation! We deal in reason not boredom!

      •  'They are stupid" (0+ / 0-)

        I wish this were still true today. Unfortunately, I am afraid it may not be.  People won't realize the damage inflicted until these programs are actually dismantled and we have old and poor people dying in the streets and everyone working in sweat shops.  Once these programs are gone, I fear it will take a long time to get them back.

    •  I think (0+ / 0-)

      When it comes to politics, WI's middle class (whatever remains of it) is so panicked by the fear that a crumb might trickle down to the poor, that they cling to hard right pols. Nationwide, the poor -- and those who get why unrelieved poverty is sinking the US -- have only been even more deeply alienated over the past 6+ years. For whom can they vote when no party, no pol, represents them? So, this is why we have the politics we have.

      •  Thinking.....thinkint...thinking! (0+ / 0-)

        I think you really have something with your assessment of the situation. Also, there are those working blue collar people, who vote entirely a ticket of morals. I do not advocate poor morals by a long shot, however, what are the morals of people who begrudge unfortunate individuals the government help they need to survive? After all, the deeper the hole that the poor fall into, or sink into, everyone else economically sink with them as a nation. Perhaps, it will someday come down to the very wealthy and the very poor in this most affluent nation in the world.
        The right wing has a big following of working class people who base their political allegiance to the people who use moral issues to hook them. No one wants to look as if they are a "bad" person. Then they give them the concept that the poor do not want to work, and surely they would not want their taxes going to support undeserving people. Of course, this kind of talk infects and reinfects itself in the minds of people to give them the moral right to hate. Sadly enough, many use their religious beliefs to condemn anyone who support government services to anyone.
        I definitely see that those politicians who keep their secrets regarding doing away with Social Programs and get elected are NOT different than those who use righteous hate for the less fortunate, and base their political endeavors on moral issues.

    •  They let their love for their ideology... (3+ / 0-)
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      DSicarii, Angry old lady, Silina

      ...override their human decency and common sense.

      To add a little to the old Jimmy Breslin quote, in the minds of The Rich, Republicans, and rich Republicans, the poor cannot be made to suffer enough.

    •  Honestly? (1+ / 0-)
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      DSicarii

      What could I do to enlighten you?  I live in Wisconsin in a relatively poor area, which consistently votes Republican.   Some of it can be attributed to Fox News, Republicans and the religious right exploiting the inability of the American voter to think for themselves to separate fantasy from fact regarding abortion, the role of government and to understand where their best interests lie.   If this doesn't help I am as "endarkened" as the rest of you.  

    •  Paul Ryan Scott Walker (1+ / 0-)
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      Silina

      "My buddy Scott Walker" is all you need to know about Lying Ryan.

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