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  •  I still side against Romney. Russia isn't our (18+ / 0-)

    number one geopolitical anything. We will see where this conflict goes, and what it means long-term (maybe nothing), but considering that Russia's economy is 7 times smaller than ours, while China is about to surpass us economically, I'd say Romney needs to update his thinking for the 21st century.

    Just doing my part to piss off right wing nuts, one smart ass comment at a time.

    by tekno2600 on Fri Mar 07, 2014 at 12:57:54 PM PST

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    •  I agree that China is our primary foe (1+ / 0-)
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      But too many Kossacks (and liberals) blithely dismiss the relative danger that Russia represents to the West, especially to Germany.

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      by PatriciaVa on Fri Mar 07, 2014 at 01:03:36 PM PST

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      •  I don't dismiss Russia, but they're not a military (11+ / 0-)

        threat to Germany or the West in the immediate future. This isn't 1985. The chance of Russia overrunning Europe is 0.0%.

        Just doing my part to piss off right wing nuts, one smart ass comment at a time.

        by tekno2600 on Fri Mar 07, 2014 at 01:06:59 PM PST

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        •  given that (1+ / 0-)
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          what are the chances that Russia will have to withdraw from Ukraine?

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          by GideonAB on Fri Mar 07, 2014 at 01:55:14 PM PST

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          •  Zero. But the Ukraine is along-standing cousin. (3+ / 0-)

            And there are close ethnic and very long-standing historic ties between Russia, Crimea and Ukraine/Kiev. Germany is none of those to Russia and Russia presents no military threat to the West.

            We can speak loudly about self-determination and be very moral and right. But as for Ukraine ... we've already said enough by ourselves. From here on, we should ally with the international community where we can be a leader and not seem like such a personal belligerent. By going first and foremost, the US is making it easier for Putin to be the strongman he needs to be.

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            by TRPChicago on Fri Mar 07, 2014 at 02:23:58 PM PST

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            •  Popular image in Bahrain (0+ / 0-)

              "This picture is getting pretty popular in #Bahrain

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            •  Agreed. Russia / Masked Mystery Gunmen are not (2+ / 0-)
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              leaving Crimea any time soon, or at least until the Europeans get serious about sanctions.  A win in this situation would be defined as Putin not escalating his attacks into Eastern Ukraine and agreeing to some international monitors. This is the start of a long mini-cold war between Russia and Ukraine. In the short-run it will look like Putin wins, because no one will force him out of Crimea. But, in the long-run, Ukraine moves toward the West, divests from all economic and political ties to Russia, and investors flee from Putin's gangsta state. Europeans made a big mistake to have invested in Russia or trusted this little tin horn dictator. They now see they cannot rely on him. So, in the long-run, this is the beginning of the end of Putin and the end of Russia having any real clout in the world for at least a generation.

              Just doing my part to piss off right wing nuts, one smart ass comment at a time.

              by tekno2600 on Fri Mar 07, 2014 at 02:52:15 PM PST

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            •  Ukraine (0+ / 0-)

              All of eastern Europe is Slavic which - basically a tribal cultures. They have been fighting each other for centuries - maybe longer. If they don't fight amongst themselves they will attack Western Europe or China or the North Pole. They are and have been equal opportunity belligerents. If you get in political discussion with a Slav, agree with them and back slowly toward the door.

              •  Whew! Did slavic boys beat you up as a child? (0+ / 0-)

                That is as nasty a racist comment as I have seen on kos.
                To pool all of the nationalities and cultures of eastern europe as savages fighting anyone and everyone shows a great deal about you, but shows nothing about eastern europe.  

        •  The chance that Russia will initiate (2+ / 0-)
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          further land grabs of former parts of the USSR is a lot higher than zero and if that happens then we will be back to something very like the Cold War.

          Its really not about invading Germany or France.

          Remember to kick it over.

          by sprogga on Fri Mar 07, 2014 at 02:30:34 PM PST

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          •  That's a different story from the original topic (1+ / 0-)
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            here regarding invading Europe. Putin could attempt land grabs in other former Soviet areas, but that will provoke much stronger reactions from the Europeans than their current half-hearted responses. Putin would end up in an economic cold war with most of the developed world, and his Russian commonwealth dream will disappear, as no former Soviet republic will ever really trust him again. Plus, this is starting to hurt him politically at home. Almost 3/4 ths of Russians oppose what he is doing in Ukraine.

            Just doing my part to piss off right wing nuts, one smart ass comment at a time.

            by tekno2600 on Fri Mar 07, 2014 at 03:00:58 PM PST

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        •  Are our military folks still stationed in Germany? (0+ / 0-)

          Please someone enlighten me.  I know Rummy had mouthed/threatened to reduce the force in Germany but if it happened, I am clueless.

      •  Germany? (3+ / 0-)
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        Russia freaked out because Germany was about to give Ukraine a big loan.

        I think you have it backwards lady, Germany threatens Russia.

      •  China is US primary foe??? (0+ / 0-)

        Doesn't China hold significant sums (trillions) in US debt?

        Doesn't China provide cheap labor for countless US corporations?

        Please explain how China is US primary foe?

        •  Primary Foe (2+ / 0-)
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          Of America? Evangelical Conservatives. No contest.

        •  US tries to preserve balance of power. China is (0+ / 0-)

          now trying to upset this balance claiming places that Japan, Vietnam, Philippines, India, etc have already claimed.  China has used force, although nothing as gross as Putin.  
          This make China a US primary political rival.

          The imbalance of US/China trade has been done on purpose by China, keeping its currency cheap - causing dollars to flow china-ward.  NOT a good thing for US.

          Finally, the fact that China provides cheap labor for giant US corporations takes US jobs away and reduces wages and benefits in the US.  China may be the friend of the giant corporations; it is certainly the enemy of US workers.

          •  This explanation is confused (0+ / 0-)

            On one hand, you treat China as one monolith but confuse the matter by discussing the US as two. Both have governments and economic components. Both economies have oligarchies. Neither oligarchy nor the governments they control operate in the interests of the world's workers.

            For example, you say:

            China has used force, although nothing as gross as Putin.  
            This make China a US primary political rival.
            How about "Nothing as gross as the use of force by the US."
            See Iraq, Afghanistan, and United States military deployments.
            re: The imbalance of US/China trade has been done on purpose by China, keeping its currency cheap - causing dollars to flow china-ward.  NOT a good thing for US.
            So what? The US Federal Reserve Board manipulates currency on a daily and on a long-term basis. The Fed wants China to weaken its currency so the US owes China less. Acting from self-interest, China says that's a US problem: why should we reduce your debt to us by weakening our currency? The US owes China trillions because the US fights its wars on the credit card that China holds. Force the US to pay for its wars up front and there would be fewer wars.

            Your final paragraph is clear and unconfused, but I would qualify it with this: payment of low wages to Chinese workers makes US bosses an enemy of workers everywhere.

            Why divide differences along nationalistic lines when we're talking about class differences? It makes sense for US and Chinese workers to fight alongside one another against the same enemy: US and Chinese bosses.

          •  The Greatest Threat to World Peace (0+ / 0-)
      •  I prefer to use the term rival rather than foe (0+ / 0-)

        when discussing China and Russia.  Foe implies far greater hostility than is the current case.

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        by nextstep on Fri Mar 07, 2014 at 05:25:46 PM PST

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    •  geopolitical anything (1+ / 0-)
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      I still side against Romney. Russia isn't our number one geopolitical anything.
      Whereas a pretty strong case can be made that Willard Mitt Rmoney is the greatest geopolitical foe of America (by being such against 99% of America's inhabitants) despite being entitled to an American Passport.

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      by thanatokephaloides on Fri Mar 07, 2014 at 02:36:40 PM PST

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    •  Blather (1+ / 0-)
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      rabrock

      I've heard that "China is about to surpass us economically" often enough to no longer be actively nauseated any longer.
      I heard the same thing about South Korea, Japan, Taiwan and more.
      Don't confuse trade deficit and economic strength.
      Don't confuse economic strength with warfare. Ever. Economic strength can change during warfare and warfare is conducted to achieve a goal for both parties, each trying to destroy the will to continue making war. Remember, the US went into a world war while barely recovered from a major economic depression. The UK as well, with the UK only quite recently paying off the debt incurred from the second world war.
      Warfare was never about how many were killed or maimed, it was about whose leader really felt it was worth continuing. That has been true since King Pyrrhus! The man whose name gives us Pyrrhic victory.
      Indeed, his name lives on to remind leaders that one can win a war, but lose it by the destruction of his society.

      •  WWII was won by US economic strength where (0+ / 0-)

        lend lease gave both the USSR and great Britain the strength to keep fighting the Germans, while also building up the US military to fight in europe.  It was won largely in the pacific by the US ability to build planes and ships far faster than the Japanese.  I think this is why people feel economic strength is essential to win a war.  
        Of course, your point is made by Vietnam and the American Revolution in 1776;  both won by the side who was weaker by far in economics, but who convinced the enemy that they could not win.    

        •  Don't disregard the struggle against Germany (0+ / 0-)

          on the Russian front as a most significant factor in defeating Axis powers.

          Germany also lost because it lost its access to oil.  

          US ended the war against Japan by unnecessarily bombing two civilian populations with the first, second and only uses of nuclear weaponry by any government anywhere, or since.

          US dropped nuclear bombs even after Japan had already agreed to surrender. The only issue was whether emperor could keep honorific title, and in the end, the imperial family has kept that to this day.

    •  I think our worst enemy is (2+ / 0-)
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      The republican party and their TeaBag friends. Like a cancer, they are going to kill us from within.

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