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  •  Judy, Judy, Judy (none)
    Miller's arrogance and abuse of the First Amendment and of reporter's priviledge, as well as her unconscionable slimebucket "reporting" which amounts to little more than being a shill for criminals is disgusting. My real hope is that FItzgerald can somehow tie her to part of this conspiracy and get her up on some real charges.

    I always try to make my comments cogent, responsive, well reasoned, supported by the facts at hand and if not literature, certainly free of abuse and vulgarity as much as possible.

    With that in mind all I have to say is:

    Rot in jail you fucking bitch. I hope you're gang raped by a bunch of bull dyke convicts and left in the yard in your own shit like some prisoner at Gitmo.

    A liberal is a man so broadminded he wouldn't take his own side in an argument........Robert Frost

    by mjshep on Wed Jul 06, 2005 at 02:01:55 PM PDT

    •  cursing is for lazy writers (none)
      Please go back to your usual standards, just use the Bushco rendition technique to send Judy to Pakistan, she'll soon talk.  If Judith thinks that the Bushies   and their war are so great, let her experience what thousands of others have, maybe a little waterboarding under the supervision of Abu Gonzalez.
      •  Aren't I allowed (none)
        One indescretion. And a little bit of snark?

        I'm so good most of the time.

        A liberal is a man so broadminded he wouldn't take his own side in an argument........Robert Frost

        by mjshep on Wed Jul 06, 2005 at 02:25:57 PM PDT

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        •  Wishing rape on someone is not progressive (none)
          Genuinely progressive people understand that rape is a terrible crime and that you don't wish it on people simply because they wrote articles you dislike, hold different political beliefs or refuse to appear before a grand jury.

          Of course, if you go to the Free Republic, you'll see that the people there are even quicker to wish gang rape on Miller than you are. Doesn't it feel great to know that wingnuts and self-described "progressives" are united in their desire to see Miller gangraped? Maybe gang rape lovers from across the political spectrum could unite to form a Gangrape Unity Government. It wouldn't do much about global warming, but the reality TV shows would certainly have more of an edge.

      •  Why object to cursing and not call for rape? (none)
        OK, yes, some feminists can sometimes get a little bit overheated about complaints about ads that show women in something other than a chador.

        But I think the feminist argument that rape or even "joking" threats about rape should have no place in politics.

        I understand that people can have different views about abortion or women serving in combat, but I would think that there might be a consensus that calling for rape of an opponent is worse than using naughty words.

    •  You seem to have a lot of support here (none)
      I'm sure that Miller is arrogant and that she was difficult to work with and that, if I knew her personally, I'd probably be secretly glad that was getting run through the wringer.

      But, what the Miller bashers here don't understand, and what apparently Wilson does understand, is that Miller is as much a victim of the Bush administration in the Plame/Novak case as Plame. The Rovies may not have conceived of this whole affair as a tool for attacking The New York Times and the freedom of the press in general, but that's what it's turned into.

      Miller ended up getting fooled by the Bush administration and, apparently, Iranians who wanted the United States to attack Iraq. But that's just a case of her being foolish. She was not the only reporter reporting on the topic for the Times. The Times had plenty of reporters writing articles about reasons not to go to war with Iraq. Plenty of Democrats (example: the Clintons) seem to have shared Miller's fears about Iraq's WMD program in 2002. (Keep in mind that the UN had a huge program put in place in response to world leaders' belief that Hussein was hiding WMD plants somewhere.) And, even if Miller had been a member of the Nazi Party covering Iraq from a Nazi perspective, by golly, the Constitution would have protected her right to write from a Nazi perspective, and we would have an obligation to contribute to ACLU efforts to protect her from legal harassment.

      In this particular case, all Miller did, at very worst, was find out what Plame did for a living and maybe gossip about it, or listen to other people gossip about Plame. People gossip about whether other people are spies (or drug lords, or mafioso) all the time. Americans have been gossiping about whether Evergreen Airlines, for example, is a CIA front since the 1950s. Another example: Many of us here were outraged when authorities seized the servers of simply because activists posted the pictures of two undercover police officers on its Web site. I'm really angry at any Bush administration people who outed Plame on purpose to get back at Wilson, but I think it's hypocritical for us to be angry about Miller sharing the same kind of information that we shrug at posting.

      Now, even people who like to think that they are progressive are wishing the most sexist kind of physical violence on a woman because she either heard or dished international relations gossip.

      How lovely we are. How proud we'll be of ourselves when we look back on this affair 25 years from now.

      •  Oh, please ... (none)
        She was hyping this stuff to the point that it was sickening.  She is nothing more than a crass careerist.  She deserves what she walked into.  No sympathy from me.

        I hope that in the upcoming criminal trial she will be subpeoned to testify.  She either talks or takes the fifth amendment, or is held in  contempt of court with penalties more serious than a couple of months in jail.  We will see then how far her 'principles' carry her.

      •  We expect more from the NYT. . . (none)
        even in these days of the decline of the SCLM.  To me, Judith Miller is like a Yale graduate who goes to Harvard Medical School and quits after one semester to wait tables (it happens).  She was taking the place of someone with real talent and the desire to be a real reporter and just goofing along with her paramour (real or metaphorical) Chalabi.

        We have a right to expect more in the way of savvy and skill than jail bird Judy displayed.  Even out here in the cornfields lots of people knew that Bush was playing us all for fools.  Many doubted their own good sense because people closer to the source like Judy were tumbling to the Bushco line.

        She should (but will not) hang her head in shame.  She has been a disservice to her paper and to the broad readership that mistakenly trusted her.

        What rough beast, its hour come round at last/Slouches toward Bethlehem waiting to be born?

        by cova1 on Wed Jul 06, 2005 at 07:07:11 PM PDT

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