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  •  Gee, (2+ / 0-)
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    Dirtandiron, JVolvo

    Did I say anything about tariffs? I must have missed that when I wrote this diary.

    A few years later? How many? Please be more specific.

    And what about Australia? I have no idea to what you are referring. Please inform us all of what you mean.

    "No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up." --Lily Tomlin

    by paulex on Fri Mar 07, 2014 at 11:00:18 PM PST

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    •  Free trade usually means trade with low tariffs. (0+ / 0-)

      Or do you mean that all trade should be banned? That would be impossible. People have always traded.

      Australia had huge problems with invasive species. A few rabbits multiplied and ruined the ecology. Sheep weren't much better but they at least were brought there deliberately. All this in 19th century, long before modern 'free trade' ideas.

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        Dirtandiron, JVolvo, terabytes

        You are putting a lot of words in my mouth that I did not say. I put "Free Trade" in quotes, because that it not what we have. I was pretty specific.


        it is really unrestricted, one-sided trade. Or “open” trade, or “dumping” (although that has certain legal meanings, but it is true nonetheless). Basically, we allow other countries to sell their goods here without regard to reciprocity, environmental laws, labor laws or even basic human rights.You are wrong. What is the problem that you have with fair trade? That is really what I am advocating here.

        "No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up." --Lily Tomlin

        by paulex on Fri Mar 07, 2014 at 11:28:28 PM PST

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        •  Reciprocity (2+ / 0-)
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          FG, Sky Net

          Actually, we have all sorts of reciprocity—from GATT and the WTC, to NAFTA, to other pacts on mutual openings of markets, as well as trade restrictions on items like weapons, certain hardwoods and threatened species, in addition to certain "strategic" materials and manufactures being withheld from international commerce. Now, there may not be enough of these regulations to suit you, but they certainly do exist in some quantity. In addition, beyond governmental regulation, there are the various NGOs certifying diamonds, coffee, and clothing, etc. as being put in trade in accord with certain norms. The mildest characterization is that you have very much overstated your case.

          BTW—pests of all sorts have been international travelers since international trade began, i.e., for several millennia.

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