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  •  Bruno was really more mystic than scientist... (4+ / 0-)

    ... he had "visions" and spouted "heresy" based on those visions.

    He happened to be right about the Sun being just another star, and he was also right about there being more planets than his contemporaries thought there were, but mainly he was tried for more run of the mill heresies. From wikipedia:

    Beginning in 1593, Bruno was tried for heresy by the Roman Inquisition on charges including denial of the Trinity, denial of the divinity of Christ, denial of virginity of Mary, and denial of Transubstantiation. The Inquisition found him guilty, and in 1600 he was burned at the stake.[4] After his death he gained considerable fame, particularly among 19th- and early 20th-century commentators who, focusing on his astronomical beliefs, regarded him as a martyr for free thought[5] and modern scientific ideas. However, scholars note that Bruno's ideas about the universe played a small role in his trial compared to his pantheist beliefs, which differed from the interpretations and scope of God held by the Catholic Church.

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    by GreenPA on Sun Mar 09, 2014 at 07:15:43 PM PDT

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    •  'If you're explaining you're losing' (5+ / 0-)

      I totally understand what you're saying, and the importance of context, but the bottom line is that in 2014 trying to defend the Inquisition, and burning victims at the stake, because he really was a heretic... still doesn't help! ;)

      •  Um yeah... (3+ / 0-)
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        If that wasn't clear, gruesomely murdering people for imagined heresy isn't cool, lol.

        But it certainly wasn't an uncommon practice - we come from a brutal species.

        The main point of my comment is that Bruno wasn't the forward-thinking astronomer that some would like him to be.

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        by GreenPA on Sun Mar 09, 2014 at 07:27:42 PM PDT

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        •  Tyson mentions that (8+ / 0-)

          He says that while Bruno was kind of correct, he had no evidence.  It could have just as easily been proven wrong.

          "Harass us, because we really do pay attention. Look at who's on the ballot, and vote for the candidate you agree with the most. The next time, you get better choices." - Barney Frank

          by anonevent on Sun Mar 09, 2014 at 07:38:50 PM PDT

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          •  Giordano was correct. Not "kind" of correct... (4+ / 0-)

            Dead nuts correct. No telescope to provide evidence although that didn't help Galileo much with the cardinals 10 years later.

            Several of the men-in-red who burnt Bruno were made saints and the chief inquisitor was named a professor of the church. As payback is a bitch, cardinal bellarmine's legacy includes:

            St. Robert Bellarmine, a church in the New Orleans suburb of Arabi, Louisiana, was destroyed shortly after its completion by Hurricane Betsy in 1965. The church was put completely underwater in 2005 by Hurricane Katrina and took on more water from Hurricane Rita less than a month later. The parish was permanently dissolved by the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of New Orleans immediately after
            •  Bruno was also an astrologer, a BIG (0+ / 0-)

              NO NO as far as the Catholic Church idiots were concerned.

              Through thoughts, words and actions, we live the truth we know. -- L. Spencer

              by orlbucfan on Mon Mar 10, 2014 at 09:05:20 AM PDT

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