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  •  This is the real obit for Occupy: (11+ / 0-)
    In the end, those of us who wanted electoral change left to work on electoral stuff. And the crowds went with us.
    As for making the Dems a better party, I'm with you.

    If I ran this circus, things would be DIFFERENT!

    by CwV on Wed Mar 12, 2014 at 11:09:11 AM PDT

    •  It also completely fictitious (12+ / 0-)

      It was clear to everyone that the Democratic establishment was trying to co-opt the Occupy movement, and the Occupy movement said fuck off.

      It became even more evident when a bunch of front groups for the wall Street wing of the Democratic party tried to launch their own Occupy actions in the spring of 2012, and it completely failed. Remember the "99% Spring"? LOL.

      The fact is, the whole OWS uprising was an explicit rejection of Obama's pro Wall Street agenda and the failure of the Democratic party to do anything to address the great injustices of the financial crisis.

      And you think all those OWS people suddenly, upon being brutally ejected from public spaces by militant asshole cops, realized that the real solution was to elect more Wall Street Democrats?

      LOL.

    •  All of you that are so (10+ / 0-)

      Desperate for Occupy to die, fogedaboutit, it hasn't yet passed away nor will it as along as the activists that were in it still are activists.

      ALL of our institutions have been hollowed out by the greed ethos. There are none left with heart intact or souls for that matter. So the zombie is all around us - me

      by glitterscale on Wed Mar 12, 2014 at 11:36:43 AM PDT

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      •  What makes you think that I'm (0+ / 0-)

        "Desperate for Occupy to die"?
        I'm sorry that Occupy died. I thought that they really had some good stuff going on. I was very sorry to see the Blac Bloc destroy the momentum. I was not real pleased to see the (non)leaders of Occupy snub the overtures of Members of Congress who were genuinely interested in actualizing some of the policy initiatives that Occupy seemed to be aiming at. (I say seemed to be because without a specific set of ideas/demands and without anyone that could get out in front and speak for the movement, it was very hard for many people to tell what exactly they were on about. The overall sense toward the end was that it was a secret hipster society which most of us were not privy to.)
        But, Occupy, whether you know it or not, had a huge influence on the leadership of the Democratic Party. It changed the way Obama and Pelosi and Reid (among others) and the Media were approaching certain issues. It brought forward the whole idea of income disparity and set in motion the drive for $10.10 in Congress.
        Had they had a more coherent program, had they been willing to engage in the conventional sphere, they could have had much more influence.

        If I ran this circus, things would be DIFFERENT!

        by CwV on Wed Mar 12, 2014 at 03:45:55 PM PDT

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    •  Awesome. (2+ / 0-)
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      awcomeon, CwV
      As for making the Dems a better party, I'm with you.
      We'll talk.

      An Fhirinn an aghaidh an t'Saoghail. (The truth against the world.) Is treasa tuath na tighearna. (The common people are mightier than the lords.)

      by OllieGarkey on Wed Mar 12, 2014 at 01:47:31 PM PDT

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