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  •  can you tell me (0+ / 0-)

    what happened in the meetings with CPC?

    we cannot raise more money than the Republicans. So we must outthink them

    by GideonAB on Wed Mar 12, 2014 at 01:50:01 PM PDT

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    •  They wanted us to make a specific list of (7+ / 0-)

      demands so that they could come out in support with legislation and action, and they were worried about hitching themselves to our train if we turned into a total trainwreck.

      That's the gist.

      They needed us to do some solid things, officially, speaking as the GA.

      And because of infiltration and infighting, that never materialized. There was also the issue of Portland and others very rightly saying "The NYCGA can't speak for us, we have to speak for ourselves."

      So there were some real organizational issues as to why that kind of action may not have been overly successful, even if it had come about. I was personally worried that the NYC group might do something, a candidate comes out and supports it, and then gets backstabbed by the folks in their own back yard.

      Overall, any effort to turn Occupy into a well-organized national movement was doomed to fail because of taking inclusion too far. Allowing obvious infiltrators and agents-provocateur a platform was a terrible idea. But our efforts to fix that failed.

      Tool might have a different take, but that was the result of the conversations I had.

      An Fhirinn an aghaidh an t'Saoghail. (The truth against the world.) Is treasa tuath na tighearna. (The common people are mightier than the lords.)

      by OllieGarkey on Wed Mar 12, 2014 at 01:57:22 PM PDT

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      •  perhaps (2+ / 0-)
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        we should have the conversation about how occupy 2 can keep the agents from doing much damage

        we cannot raise more money than the Republicans. So we must outthink them

        by GideonAB on Wed Mar 12, 2014 at 02:01:28 PM PDT

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