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    "Rip apart" is hyperbole. This is a delightful exchange between two very intelligent, warm, well-informed scholars – Stewart and Napolitano – over what would have been the right way to end slavery – an institution which Napolitano was avid to describe in the most disparaging terms.

    There are few things more stimulating and gratifying than disagreeing vehemently with someone toward whom you feel great respect and affection, which s/he reciprocates. The casting of Napolitano as a bad guy here is gratuitous and unfortunate. He wanted slavery to end as much as Stewart did, but had different assumptions about what would have best accomplished that with the lowest financial and human cost. So they are allies in the ends they seek, and adversaries only in the means to get there. That isn't inconsequential, especially where human rights are concerned, but it doesn't make Napolitano a colluder when it comes to slavery.

    •  What? (1+ / 0-)
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      Napolitano is flat out wrong in much of what he says. Deliberately so. He's carrying on the tradition of holding up the Lost Cause mythology that began pretty much the day the Civil War ended.

      Time is of no account with great thoughts, which are as fresh to-day as when they first passed through their authors' minds ages ago. - Samuel Smiles

      by moviemeister76 on Wed Mar 12, 2014 at 12:51:57 PM PDT

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      •  The mythology goes back to before Beauregard (2+ / 0-)
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        started the shooting at Fort Sumter, indeed long before Lincoln's election. Lincoln himself exposed much of it in his Cooper Union Address, shredding the Original Intent argument of Senator Stephen Douglas and the South generally, which claimed that none of the founders "who understood the question as well as, or better than, we" ever envisioned Congress forbidding slavery in any territory.

        The sum of the whole is, that of our thirty-nine fathers who framed the original Constitution, twenty-one – a clear majority of the whole – certainly understood that no proper division of local from federal authority, nor any part of the Constitution, forbade the Federal Government to control slavery in the federal territories…
        I could link to some of the modern propaganda against Lincoln, but we don't have enough brain bleach.

        Back off, man. I'm a logician.—GOPBusters™

        by Mokurai on Wed Mar 12, 2014 at 02:27:06 PM PDT

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