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  •  I completely agree about you doubting the (7+ / 0-)

    demographic argument ... People have to decide to vote a particular party for a "first time," but after that, there has to be some reason to do it again. Democrats aren't doing a significant job of that at all. It's perfectly reasonable to believe that Latinos and young people just go straight to "cynical non-voters" without any pass-through stage of voting Democratic.

    Dems have been sitting on their thumbs for 30 years waiting for the GOPers to implode. Meanwhile, the D brand has been so diminished that they've got union folks like you---of all people!---telling them to suck sand. Walking away from traditional economic justice and labor issues has been a complete catastrophe--for the party and the nation.

    •  The assumption that Latinos are aching to vote (6+ / 0-)

      for the party of the man who has deported more Latinos in the entire history of the nation, and during only his first five years in office, is a pretty far-fetched assumption.

      Latinos support Democrats more, currently, because Republicans are so hideous. But they are fully aware that the president only gives them pleasant words, which actually doing the polar opposite.

      They are aware of the quotas that CBE officers have on their performance appraisals requiring a minimum number of deportations a month, merits of the cases notwithstanding.

      They are aware of the private prisons which the administration has agreed to keep full of immigration "detainees" with poor medical care, constant motion to break off family and legal contact, and a host of other abuses.

      They are aware that this president, in five years, has deported more people than any other president in American history in their entire terms in office.

      And, coming up, we have the half-Latino George Prescott Bush, a fluent Spanish speaker. Someone who will do at least as much as Obama has done, and speak out against deportations.  But moreso, due to his party's need to attract Latinos due to the demographics, in 5 to 10 years, may be openly calling for amnesty.

      And the mass defection will appear.

      The shallow belief that demographics means the end of the Republican Party is just that. Time and again, when either major party has been on the pundit's "death knell", some change or another has kept them in the game.

      And isn't it funny that this goes back to the promise of change we were given, instead of the lack of change which was delivered? Funny, ha ha. Not funny, humorous.

      And that's really, really sad. A huge opportunity thrown away. That will be the history. Opportunity, squandered trying to "compromise" with crazy people.

      "The law is meant to be my servant and not my master, still less my torturer and my murderer." -- James Baldwin. July 11, 1966.

      by YucatanMan on Wed Mar 12, 2014 at 01:08:01 PM PDT

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      •  I have a lot of Latino students in my classes. (1+ / 0-)
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        From the remarks they make in class, they seemed to have turned against the Obama administration.
          That;s just anecdotal, but it's a recent change.

        •  He promised immigration reform his first year (0+ / 0-)

          in office, when he had majorities in both houses for two years.  He didn't even propose it, let alone fight for it, let alone push to get support for it.

          His fifth year has just ended. He's made nice speeches, but his actions do not show the change he says he supports. There are a wide variety of administrative / executive changes he could make, including simply insuring the promises he makes in his speeches are carried through by the agencies he directs. But that's too much for him, apparently.

          He wants to blame it all on Congress without taking any of the actions available to him already.

          People are just not going to buy promises forever and ever when it is their families. When their moms and dads, aunts, uncles and cousins are being deported, Obama will not retain their loyalty.

          "The law is meant to be my servant and not my master, still less my torturer and my murderer." -- James Baldwin. July 11, 1966.

          by YucatanMan on Wed Mar 12, 2014 at 10:12:59 PM PDT

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